TSA wants a free ride!

[Spooky 1]

TSA you gotta be out of your mind

Unfortunetly this rumor has a ring of truth to it. In PHX a memebr of the TSA suggested that they might want to ride on an aircraft like ours aircraft. (Thats all I am going to say about that for now). Nothing has come of it and as far a I am concerned it is a dead issue. But you can be sure that it will come up again in the future. I am niot sure what you can do to stop it as if I am not mistaken these folks come under the Justice Dept. and with full backing from that part of the goverment, things could get dicey real quick.

 

[Flechas]

I'm tempted to agree with you there, but we shouldn't be going through security anyway. So basically they have clout that they shouldn't have.

If I can't be trusted to go around their checkpoint, then they can't be trusted to sit in my cockpit.

Anyway, these guys are up in your grill sniffing your breath at the checkpoint. Now they want to do it the whole flight.

I say screw 'em. I won't allow 'em on my jumpseat.

You are right, but I don't see us skipping security. The one thing I will never want to deal with is a YSA moron trying to tell me what to do in the cockpit, or filing a complaint for unsafe procedures or some bs like that. So let's keep 'em away from the plane!!

 

[cforst513]

what's the point to them jumpseating!? so that they don't have to pay for a ticket?! what makes them deserve the same benefits of a pilot or ATCer that actually does something useful during the day?! that's crap, man. baggage handlers don't get these perks, do they? they do a heck of a lot more for airlines and passengers than TSA people do. why should TSA get the benefits and not baggage guys? "well, we protect you by screening those passengers who want to gouge your eye out with a matchstick". no thanks, TSA-boobs. the aviation industry has survived long before your arrival. and the aviation industry will continue to survive, with or without you. TSA goons are just a headache for passengers and pilots alike.

 

[FL000]

Unfortunetly this rumor has a ring of truth to it. In PHX a memebr of the TSA suggested that they might want to ride on an aircraft like ours aircraft. (Thats all I am going to say about that for now). Nothing has come of it and as far a I am concerned it is a dead issue. But you can be sure that it will come up again in the future. I am niot sure what you can do to stop it as if I am not mistaken these folks come under the Justice Dept. and with full backing from that part of the goverment, things could get dicey real quick.

They can get authority all they want...and I suppose that means they can ride in the back without captain's authorization, but a cockpit ride is up to the captain.

 

[bafanguy]

I am niot sure what you can do to stop it as if I am not mistaken these folks come under the Justice Dept. and with full backing from that part of the goverment, things could get dicey real quick.

I agree with Spooky1 that this whole idea is a bit iffy, but it could be a tough legal issue depending on what category these people would be put in. As you know, there are a few types you cannot refuse access without stirring up a real hornet's nest...Secret Service, FAA ACI's, NTSB, etc. Sure, you can throw 'em off, but you better have one seriously good reason with cast iron proof you're right.

However, I can't imagine ANY case can be made for allowing these people in the cockpit for ANY reason. "...to see what they're protecting..." ?? They saw that when they pawed through my suitcase full of dirty underwear, smelled my feet, and got close enough to give me a big, wet French kiss.

Even a one-time FAM ride is out of the question. Unless they're put in some "must ride" category, I can't imagine ever hearing of one of them being allowed by the captain to ride in the cockpit.

What a joke !!!

 

[cforst513]

I agree with Spooky1 that this whole idea is a bit iffy, but it could be a tough legal issue depending on what category these people would be put in. As you know, there are a few types you cannot refuse access without stirring up a real hornet's nest...Secret Service, FAA ACI's, NTSB, etc. Sure, you can throw 'em off, but you better have one seriously good reason with cast iron proof you're right.

However, I can't imagine ANY case can be made for allowing these people in the cockpit for ANY reason. "...to see what they're protecting..." ?? They saw that when they pawed through my suitcase full of dirty underwear, smelled my feet, and got close enough to give me a big, wet French kiss.

Even a one-time FAM ride is out of the question. Unless they're put in some "must ride" category, I can't imagine ever hearing of one of them being allowed by the captain to ride in the cockpit.

What a joke !!!

I agree with you 100%. gee, let's see: allow a guy whose job it is to protect the POTUS into the cockpit or allow Ron Felcher from off the street, who happens to run the the TSA X-ray machine, into the cockpit. i think the answer is clear. it's "C", the extremely hot (and rare) brunette 22 year old stewardess whom you befriended the night before

no, seriously, i'd take the Secret Service guy over the TSA guy any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[pilotpayne]

Here is a god one for you. We get to atlanta and head in for lunch, thanks to a 3 hour sit. The f/a stays on to read or something. I come back and the door is closed and no f/a. The captain comes back and says the tsa is giving our airline a fine for leaving the airplane door open and that means the airplane was not secured. The f/a went in after us to grab some food and didn't close the door. I couldn't belive it the tsa guy said our airplane was not secure even though it's on a secure ramp thanks to the tsa. He also said it was because we left our door open. I guess the people who want to blow up our planes can't read because the directions to open the door are right there on it. I HATE THE TSA.

 

[cforst513]

uhoh... i think that this is spawning a new thread!

 

[Cuban B.]

Only after full body cavity search by surly rampers

 

[ultrarunner]

Unfortunetly this rumor has a ring of truth to it. I am not sure what you can do to stop it as if I am not mistaken these folks come under the Justice Dept. and with full backing from that part of the goverment, things could get dicey real quick.

Actually, TSA is a sub-division within the Department of Homeland Security, which also includes Customs and Border Protection and Immigrations and Customs Enforcement.

With that being said, I would find it unlikely you will get groups from DHS approved to ride in the flight deck.

If TSA were under DOT's jurisdiction or, as you mentioned, DOJ, then it might be a different matter. Under DOJ they would be grouped with FBI and BATF, and of course under DOT, grouped with the FAA.

 

[Bumz_Rush]

was this posted 1st April......................................

 

[Hung Start]

Not on my plane. Period

 

[I'm42]

Wait! How about this: "Sir, I believe I smell alcohol on your breath. I cannot allow you to ride the jumpseat in that condition."

That's great!!!

Besides, aren't those new cockpit doors meant to keep people like them on THE OTHER SIDE of the door!!

 

[propsarebest]

ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW THE OBSERVERS O2 SUPPLY ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE LOW WHENEVER THEY REQUEST THE JUMPSEAT?



HMMMMMMMM

 

[propsarebest]

was this posted 1st April......................................

NOPE, THIS IS THE HONEST TO GOD TRUTH. SAD.