TSA pilot issue on abc evening news

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[sat74]

In Europe, pilots would call for a 1 day strike or longer until dedicated crew screening areas were implemented.

Why do Americans just roll over and take it up the a55 all the time?!!

 

[nightfr8er]

If alpa was ever serious, they could have had this solved many years ago...

ALPA should take that money that've been siphoning off from us for so long and pay to have Crew Pass up and running at EVERY airport. I thought that was the whole reason that they were going down that road in the first place. What good is it to get the thing approved, and then not put it in place?

 

[Dornier 335]

... Where is ALPA? ...

Easy people! Alpa is right here and on time. From their website (under Top News):

ALPA Statement on Airline Passenger Security Screening
October 22, 2010 - The Air Line Pilots Association Int’l. (ALPA) fully supports effective airline passenger security screening. In fact, ALPA played a key role in influencing the federal government to mandate passenger screening in the early 1970s.
Recently, the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) as a security screening tool has raised privacy and other concerns in North America and around the world. ALPA acknowledges the reservations and concerns that some have expressed about the use of AIT. Countering these issues, however, is the fact that AIT can provide a significantly greater level of security than do walk-through metal detectors to keep improvised explosive devices and other threat objects off of airline aircraft.
Looking to the future, ALPA is advocating for the development of a trust-based security system that will focus on determining whether an individual possesses hostile intent using threat-object detection technology as a supplement to the screening process. Once implemented, this system will help reduce the need for use of invasive screening methods for the vast majority of the traveling public.
Responding to a Congressional mandate, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has already endorsed one component of a threat-based security system by approving implementation of the ALPA-conceived Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS, a dedicated security screening process for flight crewmembers, validates the identity and confirms the employment status of crewmembers in real time. ALPA has obtained the required approval from TSA for nationwide CrewPASS implementation; the Association is urging each carrier to make this system available for use of their flight crewmembers.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.

 

[olympus593]

Easy people! Alpa is right here and on time. From their website (under Top News):

ALPA Statement on Airline Passenger Security Screening
October 22, 2010 - The Air Line Pilots Association Int’l. (ALPA) fully supports effective airline passenger security screening. In fact, ALPA played a key role in influencing the federal government to mandate passenger screening in the early 1970s.
Recently, the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) as a security screening tool has raised privacy and other concerns in North America and around the world. ALPA acknowledges the reservations and concerns that some have expressed about the use of AIT. Countering these issues, however, is the fact that AIT can provide a significantly greater level of security than do walk-through metal detectors to keep improvised explosive devices and other threat objects off of airline aircraft.
Looking to the future, ALPA is advocating for the development of a trust-based security system that will focus on determining whether an individual possesses hostile intent using threat-object detection technology as a supplement to the screening process. Once implemented, this system will help reduce the need for use of invasive screening methods for the vast majority of the traveling public.
Responding to a Congressional mandate, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has already endorsed one component of a threat-based security system by approving implementation of the ALPA-conceived Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS, a dedicated security screening process for flight crewmembers, validates the identity and confirms the employment status of crewmembers in real time. ALPA has obtained the required approval from TSA for nationwide CrewPASS implementation; the Association is urging each carrier to make this system available for use of their flight crewmembers.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.

Weak...

 

[superatr]

This is what Eagle ALPA put out:

TSA Security Changes

Recently there has been some media attention surrounding the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) or “backscatter” imaging in airport screening. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has introduced this new technology at a few airports across the country.

Last week’s events serve as a vivid reminder that civil aviation remains a desirable target for terrorists who would seek to harm Americans and to bring attention to their organizations. Although the Eagle ALPA MEC supports the TSA in its efforts to make our skies secure, the “one size fits all” approach to screening is obviously insulting to those of us who put on an airline uniform and daily perform our primary mission – flight safety. However, more importantly, it is still unknown what kind of long-term effects may result in frequent exposure to these levels of radiation. Studies have shown that airline pilots already face elevated radiation risks simply by virtue of their job environment.

We want to ensure every Eagle pilot is aware of their rights when clearing airport security. Every American has the right to request private screening. The following excerpts are from the www.TSA.gov Contact Center website:

Screenings using AIT are voluntary. Individuals who do not wish to be screened by this technology should inform the TSO of their desire to opt out of AIT. Passengers opting out of AIT will be required to undergo alternative screening, to include a thorough pat-down. If passengers are told they are not allowed the option of a pat-down or other screening, they should ask to speak with a Supervisory Transportation Security Officer….

…You may request a private area for your personal screening. The private area will either be a separate room or an area out of the view of the general public.

ALPA has long been pushing lawmakers to fully implement CrewPASS or biometric identification. Great strides have been made on this front and in fact, Alaska Airlines has already committed to providing CrewPASS access to its pilots. But until such time as this system is available, Eagle pilots may have no choice but to ask for private, alternate screening.

If you choose to exercise these rights please keep the following points in mind:

· As a uniformed airline pilot your attitude and demeanor must reflect the highest standard of professionalism and courtesy. All security checkpoints are videotaped and incidents reviewed.

• Once you begin the security screening process, you cannot withdraw. Individuals who withdraw (whether employee or not) are subjected to consequences ranging from a warning to detainment and criminal charges.

• Politely decline AIT exposure and request private, alternative screening, outside the view of the public.

• If these requests are challenged by TSA personnel, politely request to speak with a TSA Supervisor and remind them of your rights under United States federal law.

• If you feel that you have been treated with less than courtesy, respect and professionalism, please contact the Eagle ALPA MEC office. Please be sure to include the time, date, security checkpoint and name of the TSA employee who performed the screening.

• If you find yourself unreasonably delayed in the security screening process, please contact American Eagle Crew Scheduling to advise them of a delayed departure and when time permits, submit a Pipeline report, of which you should send a copy to your local ALPA representative.

 

[Simon Says]

• Once you begin the security screening process, you cannot withdraw. Individuals who withdraw (whether employee or not) are subjected to consequences ranging from a warning to detainment and criminal charges.


That is one of the most scariest statement ever. I believe that volluntering to a consent to search also gives you the right to stop the search at anytime barring the fact that probable cause was not found during the search.

 

[Dornier 335]

Weak...

I was being sarcastic...

 

[nightfr8er]

<<<ALPA has obtained the required approval from TSA for nationwide CrewPASS implementation; the Association is urging each carrier to make this system available for use of their flight crewmembers.>>>


Again, why isn't ALPA paying for it? They definitely have the money (from us) to do it.

 

[maru657]

Alpa, your joking right? They are currently working behind the scenes to see if they can come up with another idea concurrent to crew pass, in which they can roll out in a testing phase which will take another 2 yrs to test and see if it works. This will provide the eyewash to the mass due payers that the mothership is working on it, How long has it been 26 yrs now?

I believe I was told, it's ultimately up to the individual airports to decide what level of security to subject crew members to. They do have the option of installing biometric type scanners and such, but opt not to. If alpa was ever serious, they could have had this solved many years ago...

There are in fact airports in which not just pilots but all crewmembers are shunted around the TSA mess, at least for some carriers. LAS for example allows some carriers to have their crewmembers bussed right to the aircraft with only an inspection of ID. However, when forced through the cattle gates of the TSA they are still only visually inspecting your company issued ID just as in the 80's prior to Lizzy Dole. The only difference is of course an inspection of your bags. For What? The largest weapon is the airplane itself.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Is this all another powerful argument for applying to the FFDO program? I wish we were eligible at my company. I wouldn't carry on the job but would love to be able to go to the sign-in desk, show credentials, and head for the gate. Oh, kind of like all uniformed crew should be able to do ANYWAY.

 

[Busdriver320]

Easy people! Alpa is right here and on time. From their website (under Top News):

ALPA Statement on Airline Passenger Security Screening
October 22, 2010 - The Air Line Pilots Association Int’l. (ALPA) fully supports effective airline passenger security screening. In fact, ALPA played a key role in influencing the federal government to mandate passenger screening in the early 1970s.
Recently, the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) as a security screening tool has raised privacy and other concerns in North America and around the world. ALPA acknowledges the reservations and concerns that some have expressed about the use of AIT. Countering these issues, however, is the fact that AIT can provide a significantly greater level of security than do walk-through metal detectors to keep improvised explosive devices and other threat objects off of airline aircraft.
Looking to the future, ALPA is advocating for the development of a trust-based security system that will focus on determining whether an individual possesses hostile intent using threat-object detection technology as a supplement to the screening process. Once implemented, this system will help reduce the need for use of invasive screening methods for the vast majority of the traveling public.
Responding to a Congressional mandate, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has already endorsed one component of a threat-based security system by approving implementation of the ALPA-conceived Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS, a dedicated security screening process for flight crewmembers, validates the identity and confirms the employment status of crewmembers in real time. ALPA has obtained the required approval from TSA for nationwide CrewPASS implementation; the Association is urging each carrier to make this system available for use of their flight crewmembers.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.http://www.alpa.org.http://www.alpa.org.

CrewPASS, just ANOTHER gov't program that replicates one already in use, one that could be implemented in a few weeks at all airports. It's called CASS! If XYZ airline agent can confirm my identity to ride up front then why can't a dedicated TSA agent do the same? I mean really, how hard does this have to be?

 

[densoo]

Is this all another powerful argument for applying to the FFDO program? I wish we were eligible at my company. I wouldn't carry on the job but would love to be able to go to the sign-in desk, show credentials, and head for the gate. Oh, kind of like all uniformed crew should be able to do ANYWAY.

Exactly right. They already have a way of checking a crew member against a list. If they get enough pressure to do it, they could just open this up for everyone. Then watch the number of FFDOs drop like a rock.

 

[Lowrider717]

Start handing these out to the sheeple waiting in line for radiation, then inform them they can opt out.

http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf

 

[CA1900]

I'm putting this on my bag:

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