TSA pilot issue on abc evening news

[Crzipilot]

Alpa, your joking right? They are currently working behind the scenes to see if they can come up with another idea concurrent to crew pass, in which they can roll out in a testing phase which will take another 2 yrs to test and see if it works. This will provide the eyewash to the mass due payers that the mothership is working on it, How long has it been 26 yrs now?

I believe I was told, it's ultimately up to the individual airports to decide what level of security to subject crew members to. They do have the option of installing biometric type scanners and such, but opt not to. If alpa was ever serious, they could have had this solved many years ago...

 

[JoeMerchant]

ALPA won't do $h!t.....run by too many people like Rez O. Lewshun....

Individually, we can do what ALPA refuses to do.....

Notice how APA and USAPA have voiced opposition...Where is ALPA? Rez? PCL_128?

 

[Dornier 335]

The only thing lacking was the statement, "why are pilots being subjected to this when they are at the controls of the plane to begin with?"

Well done, densoo. This shows that we have to ask the right questions.

 

[skywav8r]

ALPA won't do $h!t.....run by too many people like Rez O. Lewshun....

Individually, we can do what ALPA refuses to do.....

Notice how APA and USAPA have voiced opposition...Where is ALPA? Rez? PCL_128?

I agree with JoeMerchant. Where is ALPA? Thank you APA for stepping up and showing some backbone. Fwiw, I did write my rep and received a reply. He didn't like getting his mojo radiated either and will be taking this issue to the MEC meeting.

 

[Data]

Here's an idea, by the end of this week, make it a point to let your ALPA rep know that this is horses sh!t, it's time to get Crewpass up and running.

 

[Data]

Deleted....already mentioned in another thread...

 

[sat74]

In Europe, pilots would call for a 1 day strike or longer until dedicated crew screening areas were implemented.

Why do Americans just roll over and take it up the a55 all the time?!!

 

[nightfr8er]

If alpa was ever serious, they could have had this solved many years ago...

ALPA should take that money that've been siphoning off from us for so long and pay to have Crew Pass up and running at EVERY airport. I thought that was the whole reason that they were going down that road in the first place. What good is it to get the thing approved, and then not put it in place?

 

[Dornier 335]

... Where is ALPA? ...

Easy people! Alpa is right here and on time. From their website (under Top News):

ALPA Statement on Airline Passenger Security Screening
October 22, 2010 - The Air Line Pilots Association Int’l. (ALPA) fully supports effective airline passenger security screening. In fact, ALPA played a key role in influencing the federal government to mandate passenger screening in the early 1970s.
Recently, the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) as a security screening tool has raised privacy and other concerns in North America and around the world. ALPA acknowledges the reservations and concerns that some have expressed about the use of AIT. Countering these issues, however, is the fact that AIT can provide a significantly greater level of security than do walk-through metal detectors to keep improvised explosive devices and other threat objects off of airline aircraft.
Looking to the future, ALPA is advocating for the development of a trust-based security system that will focus on determining whether an individual possesses hostile intent using threat-object detection technology as a supplement to the screening process. Once implemented, this system will help reduce the need for use of invasive screening methods for the vast majority of the traveling public.
Responding to a Congressional mandate, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has already endorsed one component of a threat-based security system by approving implementation of the ALPA-conceived Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS, a dedicated security screening process for flight crewmembers, validates the identity and confirms the employment status of crewmembers in real time. ALPA has obtained the required approval from TSA for nationwide CrewPASS implementation; the Association is urging each carrier to make this system available for use of their flight crewmembers.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.

 

[olympus593]

Easy people! Alpa is right here and on time. From their website (under Top News):

ALPA Statement on Airline Passenger Security Screening
October 22, 2010 - The Air Line Pilots Association Int’l. (ALPA) fully supports effective airline passenger security screening. In fact, ALPA played a key role in influencing the federal government to mandate passenger screening in the early 1970s.
Recently, the use of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) as a security screening tool has raised privacy and other concerns in North America and around the world. ALPA acknowledges the reservations and concerns that some have expressed about the use of AIT. Countering these issues, however, is the fact that AIT can provide a significantly greater level of security than do walk-through metal detectors to keep improvised explosive devices and other threat objects off of airline aircraft.
Looking to the future, ALPA is advocating for the development of a trust-based security system that will focus on determining whether an individual possesses hostile intent using threat-object detection technology as a supplement to the screening process. Once implemented, this system will help reduce the need for use of invasive screening methods for the vast majority of the traveling public.
Responding to a Congressional mandate, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has already endorsed one component of a threat-based security system by approving implementation of the ALPA-conceived Crew Personnel Advanced Screening System (CrewPASS). CrewPASS, a dedicated security screening process for flight crewmembers, validates the identity and confirms the employment status of crewmembers in real time. ALPA has obtained the required approval from TSA for nationwide CrewPASS implementation; the Association is urging each carrier to make this system available for use of their flight crewmembers.
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.

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