True Story, no joke....

[prodigal]

first amendment

IFF,
I wasn't suggesting that you had censored any posts when I referred to the First Amendment, but rather referred to your implicit suggestion that the flag waving crackers below the Mason-Dixon shouldn't be excersizing their first amnt. rights to do whatever.
If it is not an appropriate subject for this forum then perhaps you should not have made the comment to begin with, thus my suggestion about being a bit more circumspect. Did you really expect a comment like that to go unchallenged? One can't make such inflammatory comments in one moment and in the next moment appeal to everyone to keep the content and tone professional.

Hey FL000, Sorry about the slight. Salutations to a fellow cracker. BTW, a "dope" is an old expression for Coke as this drink at one time in fact contained cocaine. Dope=Coke, not to be confused with some message board moderators making intemperate remarks.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Coca Cola never contained cocaine, its just an "Urban Legend"

As a side note, I'm betting the debate over calling it pop, soda, coke or whatever would probably be more heated then racism or security debates.

 

[jaybird]

it's soda not pop!

 

[bobbysamd]

Pop v. Soda v. Tonic

Depends on the part of the country you're in.

In the west, it's called pop. Other parts of the country, and more toward the East, it's called soda. If you're in Boston, the stuff that you can mix with gin is not necessarily quinine water; it can be Coke, Pepsi and for the Southerners who've been following this thread, RC.

 

[tdvalve]

"Coca Cola never contained cocaine, its just an "Urban Legend" "

Better check again: Coca Cola originally did contain small amounts of cocaine. This can be verified on the "Urban Legend" website. http://www.snopes2.com/

 

[ksu_aviator]

I checked again and this is what I found at the Coca Cola Website.

Coca-Cola does not contain cocaine or any other harmful substance, and cocaine has never been an added ingredient for Coca-Cola.

Until someone can find a more reliable source (a website that is aimed at shocking people doesn't count) then I stand behind my statement. There has never been cocaine in Coca Cola, its just an "urban legend"

 

[Timebuilder]

Maybe the company is splitting a very fine hair here. They may be saying that only a certain formula, without Cocaine, qualifies as being referred to as "Coca Cola", and that a previous formula, containing the aformentioned substance, will not be referred to using the company name. I saw a special on TLC or the History Channel last year that clearly stated that many soft drinks, including the one we are discussing, did indeed contain all sorts of drugs, until they became controlled substances under the drug and cosmetic act.

Perhaps a book on the early days of the FDA would be a good place to research this.

Man, I wish I was flying today!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FL000]

They're splitting hairs alright, but it comes in the phrase "added ingredient." The cocaine is an innate part of the coca leaf. What they are saying is that cocaine was never added to the mix in a pure form.

From Coca-Cola: An Illustrated History, by Pat Watters:

[on the existence of cocaine in Coca-Cola]

"It is not, of course, as the company would have everyone know. But once it was, according to no less an authority than a pamphlet released by Asa Candler in 1901 titled What is it? What it is....

"An analytical chemist, Dr. H.R. Slack, had analyzed the drink ten years previously and found only an infinitesimal trace of the drug, the pamphlet said. Pointing out that many coca leaves are required to make a small amount of the narcotic and that only a small quantity of the leaf went into Coca-Cola..."

 

[TurboS7]

Wish you guys had been my college profs. you all sure lover rabbit trails.

 

[ukcats]

Hey, ifly4food. I thought you where supposed to be a moderator, not an instigator. Your dumbass comment about people south of the Mason-Dixon didn't show much moderation. Before you belittle us southern folk with your confused, biased reteric, go spend the afternoon at the FBO in Teterhole, La Garbage, Providence, (insert any Northeast city). Now, go spend the next day at an FBO in Lexington, Atlanta, or Dallas. Tell me which has the nicest people, surroundings, and service. No contest. I would rather get poked in the eye with a stick than fly to the Northeast. People, service, and facilities are much better in the South. Think before you speak, jackass.

 

[ifly4food]

Your dumbass comment about people south of the Mason-Dixon didn't show much moderation. Before you belittle us southern folk with your confused, biased reteric, go spend the afternoon at the FBO in Teterhole, La Garbage, Providence, (insert any Northeast city). Now, go spend the next day at an FBO in Lexington, Atlanta, or Dallas. Tell me which has the nicest people, surroundings, and service. No contest. I would rather get poked in the eye with a stick than fly to the Northeast. People, service, and facilities are much better in the South. Think before you speak, jackass.

Who looks like more of a jackass? Me for speaking my mind or you for your uneducated response?
I didn't belittle you unless you fall into the category I spoke of. Do you? If not than I wasn't insulting you personally. Rather, I was showing that there are guilty parties on both sides of this debate. I live up north and work down south. I've spent plenty of time in LEX, ATL and Dallas. I don't need you to tell me what it's like. And FYI, I could say the same about the northeast or the midwest.
I'm neither confused nor biased. I'd rather spend time down south drinking sweet tea. That's why I choose to remain working for a southern company (ASA). Southern prople are far more friendly.
I was not putting all southerners down. Just the ones I described.

Thank you for an objective and intelligent response (sarcasm intended). I don't understand how anyone unaquainted with the South could think people down there are ignorant after reading a response like yours. I'm glad most Southerners aren't like you.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Did you see this....I bet not

In Jasper Tx it happened again. Remember when James Bird was drug around Jasper by 3 white men. Remember the public outcry and hatred. Remember every news agency and television news magazine reporting every angle possible. Well, its happened again, but the roles are reversed. This time it was a white guy who was drug to his death by three black men. And I'd be willing to bet that absolutely no one here has even heard of the incident (outside those that live in tx).

Is this not the definition of hate crime? Why haven't ABC, CBS and NBC aired one comment about the crime?

I'm sure its because they are a liberal media and this kind of violence doesn't fit into their "plans" for America. If they reported this crime and made national head lines out of it, what would happen to AA or hate crime bills? People would see that racism isn't a one way door. They would realize that all Americans are equally capable of these types of crimes.

Does equality fit into a liberal agenda?

NO!

They use divide and concur tactics to turn people in this country against themselves. Then, they claim to support every minority group so they will get all of their votes.

They also count on stupidity and poor educational systems to repress those that are minorities. Case in point, Bush suggests a plan to give anyone who attends a school that does not meet the national standards money to attend a private school. This would lead to better education for those who accepted the offer along with providing strong incentives to schools to improve their scores. But liberals lashed out, claiming it would be unconstitutional. A violation of Seperation of Church and State. By killing this bill they have kept many people down. Where are the worst schools? Where do minorities tend to live? The answer to both those questions is in the inner city.

Ok, I got off the point of aviation hiring, but its still loosely tied. Liberals use bills like AA to cause more tension between races. This allows them to continue to receive the minority votes. They in turn, pass more legislation that holds back the minorities. The best examples are well fair and food stamps. Once you are on those systems it is extremely hard to get off of them. The majority of americans on well fair are minorities and single women. And those are the people that vote for them the most. What is even more disgusting is that they make hundred's of thousands of dollars a year off of these people while they remain in poverty. Some "Great Society"

 

[FL000]

KSU-A,

through what media outlet did you hear that story? Do you have a link or a source? I'd like to get my hands on it. When did it happen?

Thanks

 

[prodigal]

professionalism

IFF,
You continue to uphold the highest standards of professionalism (sarcasm intended).
Let it rest man. Go drink a Coke.

 

[ksu_aviator]

I heard of it on the Neal Boortz show. I've only listened to him a couple of times, not exactly a big fan. Any how, he is a Libritarian news talk show host and his web site is www.boortz.com

Unfortunately after searching on AOL for about 10 minutes I found absolutely no other articles pertaining to the crime.

 

[ukcats]

So, ifly4food, my use of the words dumbass, and jackass, make my post unprofesional and unintelligent. I suppose your use of the word "Cracker" to describe people south of the Mason-Dixon line, and their feelings of pride about their history and culture, is eloquent and enlightened. You are a hypocrite. Affirmative action, the subject of the thread if I remember correctly, is opposed by a wide variety of people. This opposition is not confined by geographic bounderies. Your jab at people who are proud to be from the south, was irresponsible, and uncalled for. It had no bearing or relation to the subject of the thread. If this is the best you can do as "moderator", then maybe you should just turn off the computer, and go spend time with your family.

 

[enigma]

I too heard the story. It was reported on Dallas' #1 radio station WBAP, but it died quickly. It used to be on the Lufkin newspapers website, but I can't find it there now. www.lufkindailynews.com.

 

[TurboS7]

Come on down to South Florida, all we have here are a bunch of Newyorkers still trying to figure out why it is warm in January.