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Hey, Westwind Driver-

How about changing your name? You're an embarassment to all former Westwind pilots.

I can tell you this- a 717 with enough fuel to go from MSP to ATL and full of people doesn't "dart" anywhere. It takes a while to get 120,000 lbs moving from a dead stop, even longer if they were doing a single-engine taxi, which they typically would be.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe no one was "officially" at fault? Maybe your Captain didn't have his taxi light on, which made it look like he was giving way? Or, maybe the ensuing investigation will reveal that your taxi light was burned out . . . . hope it was MEL'd. You DID do a thorough pre-flight, didn't you?

Or, perhaps the controller missed telling one of you to give right of way. Instead of simply recovering with grace and dignity, you stupidly decided to make an international incident out of it? All of these are possible scenarios. You sure have opened a can of worms because of your inexperience and immaturity, that is for sure.


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Ty has a very good point, it may have been just a missunderstanding, and WWdriver is blowing it way out of proportion. Like someone posted above, no metal was bent, so leave it alone.
 
T-Gates said:
What is it with this new aviation culture where everyone wants to rat everyone else out?! If friggin' sickens me....
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Amen!!! What's with these people? We should be looking out for each other, not trying to screw each other over. Maybe the AirTran guy made a mistake, maybe not. Who really cares? Get over it. If it really bothers you, then you need to talk to the Pro-Standards rep at AirTran. Going to the Chief Pilot is just plain low, and you should be ashamed.
 
Ty Webb said:
Hey, Westwind Driver-

How about changing your name? You're an embarassment to all former Westwind pilots.

I can tell you this- a 717 with enough fuel to go from MSP to ATL and full of people doesn't "dart" anywhere. It takes a while to get 120,000 lbs moving from a dead stop, even longer if they were doing a single-engine taxi, which they typically would be.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe no one was "officially" at fault? Maybe your Captain didn't have his taxi light on, which made it look like he was giving way? Or, maybe the ensuing investigation will reveal that your taxi light was burned out . . . . hope it was MEL'd. You DID do a thorough pre-flight, didn't you?

Or, perhaps the controller missed telling one of you to give right of way. Instead of simply recovering with grace and dignity, you stupidly decided to make an international incident out of it? All of these are possible scenarios. You sure have opened a can of worms because of your inexperience and immaturity, that is for sure.


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LOL! Pot, meet Kettle!

IIRC, Ty, as someone who threw a memorable temper tantrum over this very same issue just a few months ago, it seems a bit hypocritical for you to be piling on to this guy.

And for an encore, I guess westwind driver should now start a "What has an AirTran pilot done to you lately?" thread, eh? :rolleyes:
 
Hey, NTS:

There are two big differences between my post and his. Since you seem to have missed both of them, let me delineate them for you:

1) I did not try to "call out" a particular SWA pilot

2) I did not get the FAA and the CP involved.

Oh, and BTW, while we're at it . . . . the Museum of Tired Quotations called. . . . seemed they want to retire your "Pot, meet Kettle" quotation . . . . sounds like an excellent idea to me.


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Ty Webb said:
Oh, and BTW, while we're at it . . . . the Museum of Tired Quotations called. . . . seemed they want to retire your "Pot, meet kettle" quotation . . . . sounds like an excellent idea to me.
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I'm glad somebody finally said it.....
 
I wonder if the owners of this Westwind know they have complete tools that are flying them around?

Maybe this was their first time at an airport that didn't use Unicom for communications?
 
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Boeingman is my hero... LOL!

Boeingman said:
I wonder if the owners of this Westwind know they have complete tools that are flying them around?

Maybe this was their first time at an airport that didn't use Unicom for communications?
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You owe me a beer.... because I just spit my beer out my nose when I read that.

Thanks for the laugh!
 
Boeingman said:
I wonder if the owners of this Westwind know they have complete tools that are flying them around?
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If they don't already, I suspect they will soon . . . . .


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FL717 said:
You owe me a beer.... because I just spit my beer out my nose when I read that.

Thanks for the laugh!
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Well, now that made two people I made laugh last night. Yourself and my wife when I got undressed for bed.


Ty Webb said:
If they don't already, I suspect they will soon . . . . .


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The Internet age allows word to spread like wildfire. I think this is going to come back and bite them in the arse very soon. No worries for them though. I'm sure they can slide right back into their CFI jobs pretty quickly.

Imagine the harrowing tales of woe they can pass on to their students about flying that yom kipper clipper into the big city.
 
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StopNTSing said:
LOL! Pot, meet Kettle!

IIRC, Ty, as someone who threw a memorable temper tantrum over this very same issue just a few months ago, it seems a bit hypocritical for you to be piling on to this guy.


Amen.
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Airtran, more like Southwest everyday

Wow, this is great! First Southwest comes up with the patented Airtran cutoff maneuver(dont deny it guys my buddy just finished IOE at Southwest and told me all about it). Now we will have our very own patented Westwind cutoff maneuver. I just hope the revision to the AOM comes out later in the month, I have recurent next week and I sure hate to have to learn new procedures just before ground school.
 
Here's what I put:

Anyone else besides me notice the little "game" of pretending not to hear ground or ramp, until they have cut you off?

Anyone else ever wonder what would happen if we all started playing "Chicken" on the ramps and taxiways?

I'm getting a little tired of it.
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Here's what WW Boy wrote:


If you were the Captain or F.O. on Airtran's Monday, June 27th, flight 855 service from MSP to ATL, or if you possibly know who the pilots may have been or . . . .
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Anyone who can;t tell the difference between the two should probably stay in the kitchen and play with their kettle.
 
Hey, Catfish! The next time anything like that happens, be sure to get the flight number and company and call their Chief Pilot. I did this once before and found it to be extremely effective. I can only imagine the embarrassment of being called by your own Chief Pilot for acting so unprofessionally.


Fletch
 
]Actually, Fletch is neither. He's about as laid back a guy as you could hope to meet, as are most of the Airtran pilots.



I know of one other time this happened, and the CA I was flying with knew the Cp of the carrier in question. From what I heard, the fool that shot off his mouth was called in and canned. . . . feel free to accuse me of making this up. . . Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. . .



Hey, Catfish, what was the airline that employed this consummate aviator?[/QUOTE]
 
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**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!! !

I'm still tryin to get over the fact that you called his chief pilot over him callin you AIR TRASH...

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Sorry, I'm with Fletch on this one. . . . . if the guy's stupid enough and unprofessional enough to say that on the radio, then let him come in on his day off and do the carpet dance.
 
Sorry, guys, I'm not playing anymore. Hurricane's coming,
I know some of you guys in this string don't have to worry . . . . . it's safe in your parent's basement . . . . . but some of us have business to take care of down here.
 
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Guess I'd better be careful when I see a Westwind taxiing around. Ill open the window and wave him around!! LOL

D*MN IT JIM!!!
 
Spud said:
I looked it up... and the Capt. on 855 was a check airman and quite possibly the most gregarious and easy going pilot here at airtransam.

If this guy gave you shiot on the radio, then you must have really focked up.

I don't know you or what happened, but I do know this guy, and if I get a vote- it's with him.

Hate to think about what would've happened if it was me!!
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You would have flung poo at him?
 
You give the B-52 a bad name
 
SWA Bubba said:
He gives pilots a bad name.

Bubba
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I know FI is almost a dead as a door nail, but you would think someone would boot this guy off the site
 
http://www.taredmarks.com

Just a friendly reminder to share with your propaganda team that will be showing up in your bases this week. Hard sell is coming on strong. PJ has sent out the minions to do his dirty work.....

For the rest of you non SWA types this is a great example of complete disregard for the pilot group and the direction of the BOD. You can see for yourselves where the previous language has been lined out and the new language is in red. New terms that have not been used before... No concrete definitions, MOU's missing, notes unavailable for clarity. As bad as obamanation health care and Nancy pelooser "you have o vote it in to see what is in it......"
 
Well, that was an amusing stroll down Mammary Lane. . . .

. . . Speaking of boobs, the Tom&Tom show is pretty, pretty lame.
 

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