Peter_Griffin
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OK -- maybe this was answered somewhere else before but I am curious specifically about the training contracts, indoc and recurrent training compensation. As I am looking at other jobs, this is an important issue for me...
I work for flex, so in fairness let me give you our run down for an example of what I am looking for...
Flex has 2 year training contract, but I have heard from others that it is largely un-enforceable. But I also have heard they will send a collection agency to hassle you and report you as a bad debt write off which could potentially be pretty bad I guess.
If you quit they also make you pay $600 for your fancy leather jacket... I think otherwise the uniforms are free -- I really don't remember -- it's been a few years since I was hired ...
During intial training, regardless of your gateway, the hotel tab is picked up, you receive roughly $2500/month thru IOE (so about 2 months) and receive per diem 24/7. We are also paying 4K for gateway relocations to new hires. I think flex is actaully pretty good to new hires during training.
Recurrents and additional types are a different story.
For pilots NOT in Dallas gateway they get the hotel paid for, they get a travel day on either side they are paid for at 100% of day rate, plus perdiem 24/7.
Dallas based guys get an ops day the day before but do not get paid for it, get no hotel, no per diem. I also hear almost everyone from DFW gets scheduled to start their next rotation 12 hours after training ends on short recurrents to squeeze in a 6 day line. You do get paid for your training day at the full day rate.
Also, if because of the way your training falls they cannot get you a full 17 days you are only paid for what you work even if you asked for the full 17. I call it the myth of the guarantee. Same for vacation months too by the way...
What's up at the other fracs? Thanks for your feedback.
I work for flex, so in fairness let me give you our run down for an example of what I am looking for...
Flex has 2 year training contract, but I have heard from others that it is largely un-enforceable. But I also have heard they will send a collection agency to hassle you and report you as a bad debt write off which could potentially be pretty bad I guess.
If you quit they also make you pay $600 for your fancy leather jacket... I think otherwise the uniforms are free -- I really don't remember -- it's been a few years since I was hired ...
During intial training, regardless of your gateway, the hotel tab is picked up, you receive roughly $2500/month thru IOE (so about 2 months) and receive per diem 24/7. We are also paying 4K for gateway relocations to new hires. I think flex is actaully pretty good to new hires during training.
Recurrents and additional types are a different story.
For pilots NOT in Dallas gateway they get the hotel paid for, they get a travel day on either side they are paid for at 100% of day rate, plus perdiem 24/7.
Dallas based guys get an ops day the day before but do not get paid for it, get no hotel, no per diem. I also hear almost everyone from DFW gets scheduled to start their next rotation 12 hours after training ends on short recurrents to squeeze in a 6 day line. You do get paid for your training day at the full day rate.
Also, if because of the way your training falls they cannot get you a full 17 days you are only paid for what you work even if you asked for the full 17. I call it the myth of the guarantee. Same for vacation months too by the way...
What's up at the other fracs? Thanks for your feedback.
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