Traffic Pattern Anyone?

[aucfi]

What happened to entering the traffic pattern the proper & courteous way?

Two aircraft both called 6 mile finals within 10 minutes of each other while there were 3 other aircraft in the pattern including myself. To top it off, one of the aircraft (a Cirrus) called his 6 mile final, his 3 mile final, his 1 mile final, and his short final and then called a go-around after realizing he had made his approach to the CLOSED RUNWAY!

One guy in the pattern simply departed and came back in after things calmed down (smart guy). The other plane in the pattern turned final ahead of the other guy on the long final because the long final traffic said "yeh you guys got plenty of room, Im still 4-5 miles out." Im not going to bank my life/career on this guys estimate of distance on his final approach. My student and I elected to extend until he was in sight and beyond us and simply because he technically has the right of way.

We get a lot of corporate traffic in and out of the airport and they usually cut corners in the pattern. Though its practically no different, I usually dont mind extending to let them in ahead of us or to give them a chance to depart as long as they call ahead and give us in the pattern time to kind of coordinate an opening for them. It doesnt take too long for a corporate jet to fly a 6 mile final, but a 172, c'mon.

 

[Kream926]

whatever happened to overflying the field?

 

[UA-RESURRECTED]

That's what scares me about uncontrolled feilds. My time is pretty low, and ALL of it has been at a towered airport, where ATC basically tells you what to do. The thought of whipping around an uncontrolled feild with other airplanes in the pattern, not to mention others airplane inbound....scares the hell out of me. I hoping I'll get some experiance with non-towered feilds durring the X-country phase of training.

 

[uavchaser]

What happened to entering the traffic pattern the proper & courteous way?

Two aircraft both called 6 mile finals within 10 minutes of each other while there were 3 other aircraft in the pattern including myself. To top it off, one of the aircraft (a Cirrus) called his 6 mile final, his 3 mile final, his 1 mile final, and his short final and then called a go-around after realizing he had made his approach to the CLOSED RUNWAY!

how come no one was courteous enough to tell this guy the runway was closed?

 

[aucfi]

The Cirrus pilot was calling his final to runway 20 and actually made his approach to the closed runway 24

 

[Kream926]

That's what scares me about uncontrolled feilds. My time is pretty low, and ALL of it has been at a towered airport, where ATC basically tells you what to do..

f'n a hes back

towered or uuntowered you're still responsible for see and avoid. i cant count how many times ive been cut off or had towere lose track of whos who in the pattern

 

[MFRskyknight]

The thought of whipping around an uncontrolled feild with other airplanes in the pattern, not to mention others airplane inbound....scares the hell out of me.

My suggestion: less "whipping".

MFR

 

[FN FAL]

"I had the right of way!" is a common engraving on tombstones. That's why it is called en "graving".

 

[cezzna]

Just a thought but it sounds like the Cirrus is the bonanza of the new millenium. Underexperienced aviators overreaching their skills with deep pockets. Instead of the fork-tailed doctor killer its the glass based moron thriller.

 

[siucavflight]

The Cirrus pilot was calling his final to runway 20 and actually made his approach to the closed runway 24

What a tool. You would think that with all of the toys in the Cirrus, the guy could get the name of the runway correct.

 

[Immelman]

What a tool. You would think that with all of the toys in the Cirrus, the guy could get the name of the runway correct.

pprobably was too busy keeping his head square in the cockpit so that his whizbang sectional-chart-replacement device could land the airplane for him.

 

[cforst513]

just curious what the airport identifier is.

i like to head to quasi-busy non-towered airports every once in a while to keep myself fresh (b/c the field where my school is based is towered). just the other day i went to sebastian and no one was there to provide traffic advisories, so i overflew the field, used the windsock to pick my runway, entered 45 degrees to the downwind, and landed, after announcing everything at the proper times.

i was up in ohio last week and i couldn't get over how HORRIBLE some people are on the radio.

"uh.... morrow county traffic, cessna N12345 is, uh..... right field down-- right downwind of the field for, um, landing."

 

[cforst513]

Just a thought but it sounds like the Cirrus is the bonanza of the new millenium. Underexperienced aviators overreaching their skills with deep pockets. Instead of the fork-tailed doctor killer its the glass based moron thriller.

that is pretty funny :laugh:

 

[aucfi]

Danville, VA

KDAN

 

[Kream926]

cforst

im glad you are learning and doing the proper procedure