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[Ray Double]

Zero is a number, o is what you say when you visit the proctologist.

 

[DrewBlows]

5. People who taxi like slugs (*cough*nwa*cough*)

You can thank their contract for that. I'm a Compass new hire and had a NWA captain tell me in no uncertain terms that he had better never see me taxiing as fast as the Pinnacle CRJ that was passing by. He then proceeded to taxi to the runway at a pace I could have beaten wearing hiking boots and a 40 pound pack.

 

[DrewBlows]

"Denver, N12345, FL400".....well, they know that they're Denver; they don't need to hear that. They know who and where you are; they already accepted the hand off.

Maybe, just maybe the controller wasn't paying the closest attention when you checked in. If you say "Denver Center...Crappy airline XYZ blah, blah, blah" you give them a chance to gather their wits before you tell them what you want. If you check in "Crappy Airline XYZ blah, blah, blah" the controller may miss your call sign if he's not paying the closest attention.

I've flown with a captain who never used the center's name. It was very annoying when he bitched because the controller missed his call.

 

[atl pilot]

Technically, the correct phraseology is to use the name of the facility (i.e. Atlanta or Denver) follwed by the type of facility (i.e. Tower, Approach, Center). See below for an except from the AIM:

4-2-3. Contact Procedures
a. Initial Contact.
1. The terms initial contact or initial callup means the first radio call you make to a given facility or the first call to a different controller or FSS specialist within a facility. Use the following format:
(a) Name of the facility being called;
(b) Your full aircraft identification as filed in the flight plan or as discussed in paragraph 4-2-4, Aircraft Call Signs;
(c) When operating on an airport surface, state your position.
(d) The type of message to follow or your request if it is short; and
(e) The word "Over" if required.
EXAMPLE-
1. "New York Radio, Mooney Three One One Echo."
2. "Columbia Ground, Cessna Three One Six Zero Foxtrot, south ramp, I-F-R Memphis."
3. "Miami Center, Baron Five Six Three Hotel, request V-F-R traffic advisories."
2. Many FSSs are equipped with Remote Communications Outlets (RCOs) and can transmit on the same frequency at more than one location. The frequencies available at specific locations are indicated on charts above FSS communications boxes. To enable the specialist to utilize the correct transmitter, advise the location and the frequency on which you expect a reply.

EXAMPLE-
St. Louis FSS can transmit on frequency 122.3 at either Farmington, Missouri, or Decatur, Illinois, if you are in the vicinity of Decatur, your callup should be "Saint Louis radio, Piper Six Niner Six Yankee, receiving Decatur One Two Two Point Three."
3. If radio reception is reasonably assured, inclusion of your request, your position or altitude, and the phrase "(ATIS) Information Charlie received" in the initial contact helps decrease radio frequency congestion. Use discretion; do not overload the controller with information unneeded or superfluous. If you do not get a response from the ground station, recheck your radios or use another transmitter, but keep the next contact short.
EXAMPLE-
"Atlanta Center, Duke Four One Romeo, request V-F-R traffic advisories, Twenty Northwest Rome, seven thousand five hundred, over." ​

 

[svcta]

Maybe, just maybe the controller wasn't paying the closest attention when you checked in. If you say "Denver Center...Crappy airline XYZ blah, blah, blah" you give them a chance to gather their wits before you tell them what you want. If you check in "Crappy Airline XYZ blah, blah, blah" the controller may miss your call sign if he's not paying the closest attention.

I've flown with a captain who never used the center's name. It was very annoying when he bitched because the controller missed his call.

I'm with you 100%....I was trying to set up a scenario(and a trap) with my statement, though. The anti-"with you" crowd I think is missing the spirit of why we even check in....it is solely to let the controller that we are, in fact, with him/her on the freq., right?

I mean, have you ever left someone a phone message that said "I just wanted to call and....." or said to someone "I have a question for you" and then asked a question. By the line of reasoning used by by the people who get worked up over the "with you" thing you should never tell anyone what you're doing because that's stupid and self-evident.

I really couldn't care less how people check in with or let a controller know that they're with them on the frequency, but I think that saying "Hello, XXX Center, Longjon 123 is with you at FL590" is actually one of the most literal ways to get the job done.

And if some people are so concerned with just sticking to how the AIM says to do it, then why do I never hear the word "over" on the radio?

 

[mvedepo]

For some reason it bugs the crap out of me when people ad an "s" to their call sign.

ie.

"Deltas xxxxx"
"Uniteds xxxx"

Another thing that drives me nuts is when someone comes onto a freq with their mic keyed. Switch over and LISTEN for a sec to make sure you aren't stepping all over someone.

Also the other day we followed SW through a few sectors and he was using "Good ole Southwest XXXX"

 

[twott driver]

Okay, here's another one:
Pilots who switch to ramp tower while still on the taxiways....and are simply, for my seperation needs, gone.

Fair enough, but I bet you that the number of times your seperation needs are compromised is a lot less than the delays that would be caused if pilots waited until they were at the ramp to speak to ramp tower. Yes, I know, we have two radios but most of the time we're on the other trying to verify gate assignments etc. Just saying.....

By the way, you guys do a great job on the whole, and we appreciate the work.

 

[atl pilot]

I can appreciate that espicially if it ramps 3 or 4 at ATL.
Best wishes to anyone who has to park there!

 

[twott driver]

That would be them!

 

[Hung Start]

Another annoyance...

I read a clearence to a pilot and the readback is just the XPDR. Fine no problem, I don't care, pilot readbacks arent a requirment.

But Boston/Logan tells you to ONLY read back the transponder code, unless you have a question.

So, the confusion continues,,,,


Hung