Too good to be true?

[bobbysamd]

Paralegal work

I think it depends on the office. Where I am now, I prepare a lot of forms and materials. I spend a lot of time managing deadlines, filing, reviewing and analyzing medical records and writing demand letters to insurance companies. I do all my own support work. Of course, my attorney reviews all my work and revises as necessary. I draft a few pleadings for the court from time to time, all of which, of course, are reviewed before filing. He spends a great deal of time seeing clients, negotiating, strategizing and working up more complex materials. I spend a great deal of time scheduling various events, such as conferences, trials and hearings. That can be a real pain in the a$$, sometimes, trying to get several attorneys' calendars to conform. I cannot give legal advice. For trials, my attorney prefers to do most of the trial prep, including scheduling testimony and lining up experts; not that he doesn't think I can't do it but because it helps him bone up on every little fact; and, if something is missed, it's on him and not me. I am paid fairly where I work now according to the market and my experience, but it is not what the attorneys make.

In my last office, I was indeed doing the bulk of the work. Mostly, the main shareholder saw clients and approved work. I spent a lot of time dealing with clients and nearly all of the written product. Also, getting clients to replenish their retainers, i.e. collecting bills, which, I believe, violates the ethical rules. I did a lot of work that she said was first-year associate work. A lot of that work was extremely difficult and, I am sure, would have been easier had I been a lawyer. I can assure you that I wasn't paid first-year associate's wages at that firm.

It depends on the office. Some paralegals do attorneys' work. Others are nothing more than glorified secretaries.

 

[FL000]

Bobby,

I should have made it clear that my prior comment was not directed at you, lest you think it was. It was more at those who think money will buy them satisfaction in life. It doesn't.

 

[hyper]

"Yeah "funny"...you know what else is "funny"? Making $125000 a year at age 26 and buying my own plane while you cash in your food stamps."

Yea but, you're still a lawyer and I can always get a better job




Captbuzzard,

I'll second staying with what you have. Does your ramp job provide medical for you and your family also? That's a BIG consideration. More than likely, what's to happen is you'll hang out 90% percent of the time making someone else happy that you are there to back up any unforseen interruptions in the schedule. In the mean time, you're getting paid squat and maybe logging 20 hrs a month. I've heard too many of my buddies complaining that are in the exact same spot. Just my opinion.

 

[flx757]

Yes the claimed 8000 hours is obviously BS, I was just kiddin when I wrote that...I voluntarily washed out of 737 school to go to law school and am now making more money that I know what to do with. Buying my own plane next month, a twin Cessna.

I think everything you say is BS. I think you're just some 14 yr-old kid playing on the computer before the good cartoons come on. At least that's how your posts sound. Like others have suggested..get some maturity. Until then, go bother someone else. You have nothing to contribute to this board.

 

[Checks]

Buzzard,

Are you talking about a job with Airnet? If so then they will pay you full salary to sit on reserve. If not I would still take the job and flight instruct on the side as much as possible. If you want to be a pilot then be a pilot. If you want to be a ground guy then be a ground guy. Being married myself I know that isnt always that simple but you want to position yourself for the next wave in hiring.


What do you call 1000 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start!!!

 

[Fitzy]

Do what ever it takes too get a full time flying job. Give it some time, There are jobs out there. If your not 100% sure about the job now, wait a few months. It will come around sooner than you think!

good luck

ps--TXflyer, I love reading your posts. I know your just full of BS, It makes my reserve day go by faster..thanks again----

 

[LR25]

Keep working at it.

You have to survive first, you dont want to end up with AIDS (Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrom).

There are some 135 operators out there that could care less if you survive or not, I speak from experience.

Like others said, "Your" flying job will come around eventually. This is not a good time to take the 135 job and then get layed off and then you have nothing to fall back on.

Maybe you can work out a deal with the FBO you are working for incase they dont end up using you alot for the flying job.

Do what your instinct tells you, good luck with your decision.

LR25

 

[Timebuilder]

My boss told me that he REALLY needed a King Air SIC a while back, so I introduced a friend who was SIC current through the same FSDO, and in need of work.

Last month, he flew.

Twice.

Now, he is starting Lear indoc with another operator, just down the ramp, on Monday.

You have to be aware that many people will tell you what they think you need to hear in order to have you on hand, ready to meet their needs. Your needs are usually not an issue for them.

Watch your six.

 

[Flip]

How do you stop a bus load of lawyers from going over a cliff??







You don't.

 

[CaptBuzzard]

Checks, No it isn't Airnet. I don't believe the company that hired me pays anything other than when you fly.

Thanks everyone for all of the advice. I don't want to quit anything that I am doing until the right full-time job comes around. I still need to talk to the chief pilot this week and find out the whole story. If I cannot get all of my questions answered I am going to send them back their poh and ops handbook, and call it quits there.

 

[bobbysamd]

Bobby,

I should have made it clear that my prior comment was not directed at you, lest you think it was. It was more at those who think money will buy them satisfaction in life. It doesn't.

No, I didn't take it that way at all. I agree wholeheartedly with your second sentence. Paralegal work certainly puts food on my table and pays my bills. I'm treated fairly at my office, which I certainly was not for many of my days in aviation. But . . . . it ain't flying!!

 

[PilotOnTheRise]

From what I understand, 135 companies, especially freight couriers, will put pilots on a 'relief' position at first, until a full time run opens up. They usually are only on relief for a couple weeks, however, the way things are now, I don't know if runs will open up as quickly as they did a year ago. Remember, however, airlines like previous 121 or 135 experience, not all instructing time. So If I were you I'd take the job and start building that experience. You will get a full time run soon .. dont worry But note I am a student pilot, and no expert, however I do keep up with things and talk to people

 

[NTSing]

I dunnooo

Fellas,

I'm a pilot for FedEx. I know all about paying one's dues and the struggle to get to the majors (instructing, night freight, commuters and a furlough from US Air). My point is; my brother is a lawyer, he's 29 and hates it. He graduated number 8 in his class. He works 10-14 hour days six days a week and isn't making 60G a year. Not to offend anyone but unless your daddy owns the firm you're probably not going to be making 125K a year untill you have been there for some time.


NTSing

 

[bobbysamd]

Lawyer pay

Good posts above. The lower pay and hard work are more the norm than the exception. However, if you graduate number one from Harvard Law, you can just about write your own ticket.

The legal research and errand-running are all part of training, as new lawyers learn the nuts and bolts of practicing law. They are assigned research because they're fresh off it from law school and are up on it (although if you heard my wife, the law librarian, talk about how helpless some of the summer law clerks and new associates are with legal research, you wouldn't believe it).

Good thing Kit Darby isn't sounding off about a lawyer shortage.

 

[Fitzy]

My sis, Graduated from Gonzaga Law 2 years ago.
She thinks pilots are overrated.


I love the conflict!!!!!!!!!


Prove her wrong ---Flyboys