To the jetBlue pilot too lazy to send in an interest card

[B6Driver]

Remember when there was no LGB?

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

One of my all time favorites......0501am departures from the islands. For those not familiar with our night override pay, it ends at 0500am.

 

[Smarta$$]

non commutable 16.5 hr 4 days

Can you explain this one?

 

[Splert]

Jetblue says it is a 3 day which most pilots and FLiCA count as a 4 day for swap, drop and QOL purposes.

 

[BeachBummer]

Hmmm, like a 1 duty period red eye that requires 2 rsv pilots to fly. Funny

 

[CaptainSpaz]

non commutable 16.5 hr 4 days

Just FYI, that's not possible with the trip rig.

 

[B6Driver]

1 for 3.5 Trip Rig. Not the greatest but its a start.

 

[N311HK]

1 for 3.5 Trip Rig. Not the greatest but its a start.

So I guess you've never done a DEN 3 day back to back to back. That's 30hrs for 9 days of work. It's a start? No it's an embarrassment. But don't worry, we have guys that sell their youngest for DH turn.

Oh and FYI if you think commuting off a redeye is ok and consider that commutable we really need to rethink our standards

 

[oldxfr8dog]

We have standards?

 

[clickclickboom]

Guess we shouldnt talk about the 21:30credit 3 days we used to do that got done at 5am on day three..

These new pilots trying to " find their way " may just call me a liar

Funny how i pull up my schedules from 6 years ago and I was getting 85-90hrs with 18-20 days off..

Now on a good month i get 16 and typically 15 days off for low 80's credit

At least i am fortunate to get the majority of my flying commutable

Hey its fun to work an extra month and a half more a year for less pay and horrible benefits

 

[pilotyip]

Guess we shouldnt talk about the 21:30credit 3 days we used to do that got done at 5am on day three..

These new pilots trying to " find their way " may just call me a liar

Funny how i pull up my schedules from 6 years ago and I was getting 85-90hrs with 18-20 days off..

Now on a good month i get 16 and typically 15 days off for low 80's credit

At least i am fortunate to get the majority of my flying commutable

Hey its fun to work an extra month and a half more a year for less pay and horrible benefits

could this because JB goes to different place than 6 yrs ago? like DFW, ABQ

 

[Vingus]

The E190 / split fleet type killed our productivity.

That is probably the 80% cause.

 

[Splert]

Dropping mid week city pairs during rtp was and is 50% of the problem. The rest is the average rig.

 

[clickclickboom]

could this because JB goes to different place than 6 yrs ago? like DFW, ABQ

Well we have almost doubled out flying over the last 6 years. You would think the opposite would be true.

 

[Smarta$$]

I have heard so many pilots here bragging about intentionally timing out to have the last legs removed from their trip. If you want high time productive trips, you have to be mature enough to actually fly them, unless delays that are out of your control cause you to go over the limits. I am VERY confident that those on this board compaining about the loss of productivity would fall into that same group...

In addition, I think it is common knowledge that the company is trying to IROP proof the pairings by not having them built up near FAR limits. While we have lost considerable productivity (which sucks), we are not (yet) dramatically behind the productivity of other narrow body pilots, other than SW that is.

One of my personal top priorities for a CBA is a strong 5.5-6+ hr min day. That will help pay us for our time away from home.

 

[Splert]

Where is your data?

 

[Smarta$$]

Where is your? Comparing what we used to have is not the same as comparing to other companies. Most narrowbody pilots average about 5 hours a day unless they are very senior and get the best trips. Southwest being the big exception.

 

[Splert]

You said it.

Where is your data for: "most narrowbody blah blah blah".

Back it up with more than just pulling it out of your a$$!

 

[Smarta$$]

Prove me wrong with your data.

 

[Splert]

Translation. You have no data (ie pulled it out of your butt which is also Greek for JetBlue said).

 

[Smarta$$]

Cute. Your counter data is so compelling.

 

[Splert]

Again you made the statement and I asked you to provide the data.

Why is that so hard? Maybe because you just make it up!

 

[Splert]

Smarta$$ is sounding more and more like the fat pizza delivery boy in OSC.

 

[clickclickboom]

Splert

Dont get to worried about smarta$$ he is a secret no voter thinks he has all the answers. We have spent some time together on a multi day trip nice guy overall.

Hides behind the ( this is a great job even though things need to get better mantra )
yet will challenge everyone and everything the second the discussion turns to where we stand in the industry relative to our peers.

While I may not always agree with your delivery Splert I will say that you are dead nuts on with your information. Factual and accurate I have put my time in here and know the game.

Hopefully our younger brothers here will get educated and mature enough to make this career less about the " me " and more about the " us ". We can do it.......together and still provide massive efficiencies to keep blue competitive

 

[Splert]

Thanks.

My delivery is a mirror to those I'm posting too.

Smarta$$ does not like listening to himself.

 

[Smarta$$]

Splert

Dont get to worried about smarta$$ he is a secret no voter thinks he has all the answers. We have spent some time together on a multi day trip nice guy overall.

Hides behind the ( this is a great job even though things need to get better mantra )
yet will challenge everyone and everything the second the disc

ussion turns to where we stand in the industry relative to our peers.

While I may not always agree with your delivery Splert I will say that you are dead nuts on with your information. Factual and accurate I have put my time in here and know the game.

Hopefully our younger brothers here will get educated and mature enough to make this career less about the " me " and more about the " us ". We can do it.......together and still provide massive efficiencies to keep blue competitive

You think you have flown with me? I would doubt it. And I am NOT a no voter. And where did I ever say we are not way behind our peers?

 

[Smarta$$]

Again you made the statement and I asked you to provide the data.

Why is that so hard? Maybe because you just make it up!

My comment is based on the trips my friends at other majors fly and what the guys tell me on my commutes. If you don't like my comment, then you must be asserting that they average a lot more. Any data to back that up?

 

[Splert]

According to the 'jumspeat' AA is going to buy Jetblue.

 

[Smarta$$]

According to the 'jumspeat' AA is going to buy Jetblue.

So now we are not about to be bought? I can't keep up with the ever changing narrative you guys are selling.

 

[Splert]

Again you are making stuff up.

I never said we were.

That is all you have. Facts sourced from fiction.

See ya junior.