To all NetJets Hopefuls...

[learflyer]

You know what's spineless and cowardly is talking about someones dad you don't even know over the internet! Union shop or not, these are just jobs. Who gives a rats a$$!:erm:

 

[Iam3rd]

Actually Diesel....I think that he doesn't want a union so he doesn't have to show his true colors and be just as shameful as his father when the time comes.

Goooooooberster has judged his heart on the matter and it shows.


Enter my statement...



Enter your statement...



So you don't deny you need a refund on your Public (Government) Education.

No one has used the word communist that I've seen except you. Further more what does it have to do with my statement?

Are you saying that we are communist because we don't agree with you? Are you the standard bearer for the True American that we must not be because we don't agree with you? Are you saying that because we haven't broken the law and screamed Fire in a crowded movie theatre that we are communist? I'm a little confused on how you managed to leap from not being able to say anything you want to you are a communist. Any thoughts on how you got this screwed up in logic? Are you capable of logical thought?

Also, since when did we all/I become communist's? Was it the day I joined the C.A.P.? Or the day I joined the boy scouts? Or the day I went to college? Or was it when I joined the U.S. Navy? Could it have been when I went to war in a far away country? Could it have been the day I got an Honorable Discharge for my service to this country (the greatest country on the planet..The United States of America)? Please help us with your thoughts 'oh wise one (not).

I wonder aloud. Exactly where did you get your education....was it your father (who seems to make as many excuses as you do)?


As a side note:

Mr. Goooobester I don't know you personally so please don't take this personally. Your Stupid if you think you have any facts that prove I'm a communist. (You see Ignorant is fixable....Stupid is not.)

BTW, please learn to proof your statements before you submit them. Its called an Edit button. Try it sometime in the future.

I don't have to prove that you are a communist. But I can prove that you think like one and have the same rational as one. All one has to do is read your previous posts on this thread...as well as the others that have posted on this thread. They speak for themselves.

 

[Diesel]

What research have you done on communism? Was it watching Red Dawn?

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production.

To quote Carl Marx-
"In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic."

 

[Diesel]

lear- It was googster who brought up his dad as an example of why unions were bad. For some reason to him having his dad as a scab explains why all unions are bad.

i can't follow the logic. I don't think his dad was even a scab, he's just a troll who enjoys poking the lion and running away.

 

[Iam3rd]

What research have you done on communism? Was it watching Red Dawn?

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production.

To quote Carl Marx-
"In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic."

Yes....you are so correct my young one.....and the idiology that was used to achieve this type of society at all cost was.....can I get a drum roll........The end justifies the means. The were willing to do what ever it took to create this type of society there and around the world. And by the way they felt like it would be icing on the cake if there were no jews within the society too.

 

[honeycomb]

...the union members are willing to do things to you are are illegal....sounds so much like communism to me.......

First, I have never done anything illegal.
Second, I have never asked anyone to do anything illegal.
Third, That would make your statement of Y'ALL void and with no effect.
Fourth, Are you saying "Communism = Willing to do Illegal things"? That is stupid.

Like I said, to y'all, the end justifies the means. Basis for communism.

Okay, again if I'm not part of the Y'All this statment is out of place.

"Communism = The End Justifies the Means" or "Communism = Willing to do Illegal things" which is it?

I know you are so stupid I'm going to stop trying to offer you a free education. You don't deserve it.

 

[honeycomb]

I don't have to prove that you are a communist. But I can prove that you think like one and have the same rational as one. All one has to do is read your previous posts on this thread...as well as the others that have posted on this thread. They speak for themselves.

I'll be waiting for your first example Foooool'ster.

 

[Iam3rd]

First, I have never done anything illegal.
Second, I have never asked anyone to do anything illegal.
Third, That would make your statement of Y'ALL void and with no effect.
Fourth, Are you saying "Communism = Willing to do Illegal things"? That is stupid.



Okay, again if I'm not part of the Y'All this statment is out of place.

"Communism = The End Justifies the Means" or "Communism = Willing to do Illegal things" which is it?

I know you are so stupid I'm going to stop trying to offer you a free education. You don't deserve it.

You rode the short bus to school didn't you.....I know you may be a little slow, so I will explain it to you one more time. You are willing to do things illegal because your end justifies the means.....they go together. And your comments about my dad deserving what he got and more says that you condone those types of illegal actions.

 

[Diesel]

And by the way they felt like it would be icing on the cake if there were no jews within the society too.

wow way to bring racism into this. Man, talk about ignorant.

 

[honeycomb]

You rode the short bus to school didn't you.....I know you may be a little slow, so I will explain it to you one more time. You are willing to do things illegal because your end justifies the means.....they go together. And your comments about my dad deserving what he got and more says that you condone those types of illegal actions.

More personal attacks. More name calling. My what an intellect Goooober'ster.

I'm still waiting for MY post on your father that explains this statement above.

I'm still waiting for you to prove with MY posts that I'm a communist.

I'll be waiting for a long time b/c they don't exist.

I rode the normal bus if it helps. I made it through the World's most difficult education program. It's called the United States Navy Nuclear Power Program. I also qualified to ride Submarines. Only the most capable get that honor.

What have you done?

 

[Iam3rd]

wow way to bring racism into this. Man, talk about ignorant.

Thats a far reach don't you think.....that was the communist thinking....not mine......or maybe your one of those that believe that stuff never happened.

 

[Iam3rd]

More personal attacks. More name calling. My what an intellect Goooober'ster.

I'm still waiting for MY post on your father that explains this statement above.

I'm still waiting for you to prove with MY posts that I'm a communist.

I'll be waiting for a long time b/c they don't exist.

I rode the normal bus if it helps. I made it through the World's most difficult education program. It's called the United States Navy Nuclear Power Program. I also qualified to ride Submarines. Only the most capable get that honor.

What have you done?

So are you saying that the union was wrong in what they did to my dad?

 

[honeycomb]

So are you saying that the union was wrong in what they did to my dad?

When you can back up your claims about the above claims I'll answer your question.

Otherwise an apology is in the works from you to me before I answer your question.

 

[Iam3rd]

Gooogester

Let me make this very clear to you my young friend.

I will rip any pilot a new one if he crossed the picket line. I walked the line in 1989 and saw a number of scumbags cross in front of me in PHL.

A person who crosses a line is lower then the lowest scum that the good Lord could ever create. And as such, I hope they dries up and blow away once the sunlight hits them.

If your family member did what you claim he did then he deserves everthing he got and 100% more.......For crossing a picket line he should be living in a refridgerator box begging for hand outs.

I hope this is perfectly clear to you....

You hit a nerve buddy......

My apologys honey, it was not you who actually said it, but there have been many post on here from different people who have agreed with him. You can't keep track of who has said what. But my apology....you did not say it.

 

[honeycomb]

So are you saying that the union was wrong in what they did to my dad?

Yes it is wrong to harm or damage property of foolish individuals whom wish to cross the line.

My father was an Eastern pilot. He Didn't cross the line. I actually walked the line with him on occassion.

I was at Eagle when we went through the contract of last. I was on probation and could not vote.

I've been on both sides of the fence.

I just helped a buddy get on with NetJets. He is very happy. He had a similiar past in aviation.

Jobs come and go. What you do when you are on line is taken as who you are. Those that cross the line are scumbags. But, no one should be punished physically for it. But, it is a small community and we know everyone for there actions. Your words or actions are remembered. That is the way it is.

We have local Eastern Scabs at my airport. I will not help them or hurt them. They are their own worst enemy. I don't have to do anything to hurt them. I do call them by name though. That name is SCAB.

A strike is won around the kitchen table. When a person has to look across the table and see his spouse and children. That is were it is won and lost.

Do I love all unions. NO!

Do I love being treated unfairly without a say by a company. NO!

Therefore, a union is the answer. It is totally American. Equality for your labor. Protection from punitive punishment by the company and a compensation for your labor at a reasonable rate.

You don't get what's fair out of life. You get what you negotiate out of life.

Personally I don't have any harsh will against your father or you for that matter in terms of unions. I don't think that teachers working for the government should be able to strike. And, that is the ultimate power of a union. Sadly most airlines have given this up as part of their contract.

Unions are a fact of life. Like/Love/Loathe its up to you. If I was looking for work right now in this economy I'd pick NetJets and its union over the other choices.

But, hey that is just me.

 

[Iam3rd]

Yes it is wrong to harm or damage property of foolish individuals whom wish to cross the line.

My father was an Eastern pilot. He Didn't cross the line. I actually walked the line with him on occassion.

I was at Eagle when we went through the contract of last. I was on probation and could not vote.

I've been on both sides of the fence.

I just helped a buddy get on with NetJets. He is very happy. He had a similiar past in aviation.

Jobs come and go. What you do when you are on line is taken as who you are. Those that cross the line are scumbags. But, no one should be punished physically for it. But, it is a small community and we know everyone for there actions. Your words or actions are remembered. That is the way it is.

We have local Eastern Scabs at my airport. I will not help them or hurt them. They are their own worst enemy. I don't have to do anything to hurt them. I do call them by name though. That name is SCAB.

A strike is won around the kitchen table. When a person has to look across the table and see his spouse and children. That is were it is won and lost.

Do I love all unions. NO!

Do I love being treated unfairly without a say by a company. NO!

Therefore, a union is the answer. It is totally American. Equality for your labor. Protection from punitive punishment by the company and a compensation for your labor at a reasonable rate.

You don't get what's fair out of life. You get what you negotiate out of life.

Personally I don't have any harsh will against your father or you for that matter in terms of unions. I don't think that teachers working for the government should be able to strike. And, that is the ultimate power of a union. Sadly most airlines have given this up as part of their contract.

Unions are a fact of life. Like/Love/Loathe its up to you. If I was looking for work right now in this economy I'd pick NetJets and its union over the other choices.

But, hey that is just me.

Then I can honestly say that I respect your opinion and I will also say that I appreciate the civil tone by which you expressed it. So many of the other guys on here take it too personal when someone disagrees with them about unions and feel it necessary to personally attack verbally and would physically if given the opportunity.

 

[VVJM265]

Boy this thread sure got off track....

 

[Usual Suspect]

I love it when guys call unions communistic. Here are some countries that NEVER allowed labor unions: Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Spain, every eastern European country in the Warsaw Pact, Castro's Cuba, North Korea and Communist China to this day. There are more. They all have in common communism or fascism.

Unions are in fact a FEATURE of a modern capitalist economic system.

 

[cocknbull]

I love it when guys call unions communistic. Here are some countries that NEVER allowed labor unions: Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Spain, every eastern European country in the Warsaw Pact, Castro's Cuba, North Korea and Communist China to this day. There are more. They all have in common communism or fascism.

Unions are in fact a FEATURE of a modern capitalist economic system.

Unions are part of what makes the USA a mixed economy, not capitalist.