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Time Building in a B727

hawk

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It is true. The best paid internship in the industry! For $13,000.00 you train for a 121 carrier as SIC. If successul you are guaranteed a minimum of 200 hrs. at $45.00/hr.. Net cost $4000.00 for 200 hrs of B727 SIC. Visit simcenter.cc;)
 

bobbysamd

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P-F-T a la Boeing

Dunno if this is flamebait. Assuming not, the only thing I have to say is, gee, this sounds like the real deal. Transport-category jet SIC, for less money than you-know-where in South Florida. :(

PS - It's not flamebait. This place offers everything from zero time up. Even a Jungle Jet type, with "certain 'qualified' graduates being eligible for an airline interview." Pay-for-interview, too. What a country!
 
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BigFlyr

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I can't believe anyone in this day and age would even consider buying 200 hours in a 727! Not only is it worthless with all the furloughed highly experienced pilots out there, but it undermines those who actually get paid to sit in the right seat of a 727 and it will lable you as a "pay per view". I had that job once and it was great while it lasted but was also well earned with nearly 1000 hours as an engineer first. Anyone who has ever had the privalege to fly the great "jurassic jet" knows that a 727 FO has the best job on the ship. The Captain makes all the decisions, the FE does all the paperwork and the FO just flies every other leg and laughs at all the captains jokes! Come on guys! You can't buy that!!!:mad:
 

kilomike

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Sounds like a ripoff to me

Hawk,

Please, please please, buy a block of time in a Baron or 310 or something like that. That way you are not buying a job or putting passengers at risk while you buy flight time in a plane full of innocent passengers who are unaware of your "purchase" of flight time!! Passengers expect (and rightfully so!) better than that.

If you still have money left over after buying a block of time, go get a Citation type rating. That's a good course that will also show prospective employers that you can learn a new jet aircraft easily. Also once typed, always typed. When you buy a job like that you have the job one day and later that job can and usually is taken away from you so another trainee (that's what you really are in that situation) could buy more time!!

I wish I had that problem of what to do with a bunch of money--but I would not stoop to the level of buying a job!!

Kilomike
 

SDdriver

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My god please lets don't go here again!!!


Lets get real people. We have beat this horse absoulutly to DEATH!!!!


Can we move on...
 

Tri-holer

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C'mon
There is more to being a 727FO than laughing at the captain's jokes. You've got to remember to get the pitot heat and the window heat. Not to mention waking up in time to get the taxi to the gate instructions.

Seriously, I loved every minute I was up there - paid for by 1500+ hours as an FE.
 

LR25

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Yea right!

Next we will be hearing from 1000 tt people wanting to fly for the airlines.

Oh, thats right, we allready are.

Get real.
 

TurboS7

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Better yet Jurrassic Jet Airlines leaving smoke-trails in the sky max altitude 240 due to airspace restrictions...the future.
 

BigFlyr

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Hey TurboS7... what the heck is a B738?
 

av8or98

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No need to pay for it. I know of a certain airline that hires FO's with 1000-1500tt to fly 727's. They hire FE's with little more than 250tt. The last class of FO's FE's comprised 11 people. Only one had more than 1500tt.:eek:
 
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350DRIVER

Gotta luv the 27-200- my fav bird of all time.... At PHL today got a great view of a Delta 27 during the taxi out- (best part of the trip)-lol..too bad you can't marry one ( more thrust for the buck)- no "whining" either.....

350 cheers

To the 27 drivers- Are the systems really that "difficult" to "initially" learn & comprehend?

by the way other than Sig Flight Support in (LAS) Atlantic Aviation (PHL) has some of the best "hotties" that work there- gosta go there more often......
 

Chunk

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B738 = Boeing 737-800

similiar to 744 = 747-400

or 756 = 757/767 (one type rating for both)

Chunk
 

LR25

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The 27 panel and systems are childs play compared to the DC-8.
 

ILSRWY15

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re:SimCenter

Hawk, Have you gone through the program? I am looking to go pro in about a year and Sim Center was recommended from a friend of mine (just graduated from GulfStream Academy). I am really not interested in going the turbo prop route. Definitely want to get the jet time right off the bat, especially heavy lift.

As for those who frown on paying for your time, piss off. Building
time as a CFI when your in your early 30's is ridiculous. Flying that 152 for 2000 hrs is really going to make me valuable.

Cheers.
 

ILSRWY15

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Sim Center

thanks for the reply Blueline. The cost for the program is 13k. As a FO, you recoup 9k (at $45 per flight hr.) I tihink it's a good deal compared to 20K at Gulfstream with 250 hrs in a 1900D.

Cheers
 

BigFlyr

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Hey, ILSRWY15... Building time as a CFI in your early 30's is not as rediculous as you might think (that's what I did). Get some multi-time, if you don't have it... via multi-instructor... or whatever you can find... then go to a commuter... They hire low time pilots. By the time you're in your late thirties you should have at least 1000 hours PIC turbine in a 121 airline. THAT'S WHAT THE AIRLINES WANT TO SEE! Not 200 (bought) 727 hours in the right seat! I cannot over emphasize this fact. Buying right seat time is worthless (in this country). I tried to get around the turboprop-commuter route via the 727 flight engineer route... and guess what...upgraded to FO in a year then got furloughed from that company and never made captain....Got furloughed from the next jet job and never made captain... Now getting furloughed from my present job and never made captain. Now at 42 years of age with over 6000 hours of flight time but no turbine PIC time, I DO NOT meet the minumum (competative) qualifications for many airline jobs...I'd sell my Embry-Riddle BS Degree for 1000 hours of PIC turbine. Anyone interested? Oh well! You'll have to make your own mistakes. Just trying to help. Good luck!
 

TurboS7

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Lets see.....I have about 13,000+ hours of PIC time of which 4000 is in heavy jets. I have 4 years of college but no degree.... there has got to be a way to make this work.
 

MetroSheriff

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Re: re:SimCenter

ILSRWY15 said:
I am looking to go pro in about a year and Sim Center was recommended from a friend of mine (just graduated from GulfStream Academy). I am really not interested in going the turbo prop route. Definitely want to get the jet time right off the bat, especially heavy lift.



Please, please, please tell me this is flame bait.....
 
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