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BigSix

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SkyWest pilots accept a new pay package.

Looks like we shot a little low on this one. I voted to "Decline" it but the majority rules. We definately didn't raise the bar on this one. Sorry ASA/XJT guys.
 
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You were the first to post when we rejected the last one, and your the first to post when we accept it. Why do you have air all of our laundry? And why do you care what others think so much?
 
What are the details of the new package?

RJLoser said:
Prepare to be bashed by high and mighty ASA....
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High and mighty? What because we (ASA and ExpressJet) want to improve the pathetic compensation, work rules, and benefits in this industry?
 
This was the ONE chance to raise the bar - with ASA/XJet all negotiating at roughly the same time.

Sorry my brothers, I wish I could even say we tried.
 
Skaff said:
You were the first to post when we rejected the last one, and your the first to post when we accept it. Why do you have air all of our laundry? And why do you care what others think so much?
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I am disappointed in our pilot group. I felt like we finally had some leverage to achieve some significant improvements but we settled for very little...again. Our 1% or 1.5% payraise will do very little in the coming years as inflation kicks into high gear. I could go on and on about why this deal is a bad deal for us but I won't, as you say, "air out our laundry" here. I post on here because I have quite a few friends at ASA/XJT and this has proven one of many useful mediums to keep them in the loop on our pay vote. Skaff, are you proud of the gains we made in the new pay package? If not, then maybe that is something you should have considered before you clicked "Accept" like 75% of the others who participated in the pay vote. I am assuming that you voted to accept. Is that correct? I voted to "Decline".
 
Not to mention you guys go to short term disability after 3 days of illness. Disappointing indeed. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?
 
Now!!
On today's episode of 'My Regional Weenus is Bigger than Yours!'
SkyWest pilots vote in a new pay package, but without the assistance or blessing of ALPO! What kind of ire and scorn will this earn them from those who will now use this higher mark as their starting point?!

Tune in to see!

-Will the vocal minority finally convince the others that, contrary to all indications, their life DOES suck and they should c'mon over? Misery loves company!
-Will Nevets go on and on ad naseum about the same ol' crap?! Don't change that channel!
-Will anyone speak clearly using well thought out, well reasoned dialogue?! Aw, hells to the no!

Don't miss one minute of this exciting episode! Of course it's the same garbage that's on daily, but who cares?!

*This episode brought to you by market forces, the greater economy, and capitalism. Promotional consideration provided by Jackassishness and Doouchebaggery.
 
What a joke skywest pilots!!! Absolute joke!! Skywest posting profits every single qrt and you agree to this sh** raise??? Haha... You guys are fools!!
 
Does anyone have a list of the new rates?

Do these pay rates even make it to the current concessionary rates of XJT?

e.g. as a point of comparison a 6th year XJT CA (50 seater jet) makes $72/hr
+ 6% company match in his 401K
+ 4% defined contribution plan.

What is the new corresponding Skywest rate?
 
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Funny that 77% of the pilot group voted the new contract in but no one on here or anyone I've spoken to wants to admit they voted "yes" on this deal. How can that be? LOL!
 
ApocketA's_145 said:
What a joke skywest pilots!!! Absolute joke!! Skywest posting profits every single qrt and you agree to this sh** raise??? Haha... You guys are fools!!
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You can call me, or any other skywest pilot a fool, doesn't matter. Problem is if you work for XJT/ASA is that contracts, pay, better wages, etc., are obsolete in general. You are now owned by skywest, and yourself, along with your 50 seat airframes(I noticed your 145 on your profile), will eventually get dwindled away into oblivian. And the one list thing, forget it, it will never happen over here. It's terrible that it has to come to that, but in the long run that's what is gonna happen. you and I both know it. got your time, and get out when you can, without naming your comrades a fool.
 
kj6991 said:
You can call me, or any other skywest pilot a fool, doesn't matter. Problem is if you work for XJT/ASA is that contracts, pay, better wages, etc., are obsolete in general. You are now owned by skywest, and yourself, along with your 50 seat airframes(I noticed your 145 on your profile), will eventually get dwindled away into oblivian. And the one list thing, forget it, it will never happen over here. It's terrible that it has to come to that, but in the long run that's what is gonna happen. you and I both know it. got your time, and get out when you can, without naming your comrades a fool.
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You've been drinking the skywest koolaid by the gallons.
 
kj6991 said:
You can call me, or any other skywest pilot a fool, doesn't matter. Problem is if you work for XJT/ASA is that contracts, pay, better wages, etc., are obsolete in general. You are now owned by skywest, and yourself, along with your 50 seat airframes(I noticed your 145 on your profile), will eventually get dwindled away into oblivian. And the one list thing, forget it, it will never happen over here. It's terrible that it has to come to that, but in the long run that's what is gonna happen. you and I both know it. got your time, and get out when you can, without naming your comrades a fool.
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SkyNation said:
Now!!
On today's episode of 'My Regional Weenus is Bigger than Yours!'

SkyWest pilots vote in a new pay package, but without the assistance or blessing of ALPO! What kind of ire and scorn will this earn them from those who will now use this higher mark as their starting point?!

Tune in to see!

-Will the vocal minority finally convince the others that, contrary to all indications, their life DOES suck and they should c'mon over? Misery loves company!
-Will Nevets go on and on ad naseum about the same ol' crap?! Don't change that channel!
-Will anyone speak clearly using well thought out, well reasoned dialogue?! Aw, hells to the no!

Don't miss one minute of this exciting episode! Of course it's the same garbage that's on daily, but who cares?!

*This episode brought to you by market forces, the greater economy, and capitalism. Promotional consideration provided by Jackassishness and Doouchebaggery.
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RJLoser said:
ASA/XJT balls in your court now. Make your contract as awesome as you are. Everyones watching.
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The attitudes above are perfect examples of why we will NEVER get anything better at SkyWest. It's rather childish and sad.
 
Btw SkyNation,

I have no idea what a Weenus is. Maybe you could educate me. I am a male who has a penis that is connected to two large round things (balls) that I used to vote "Decline" while guys like you apparently used your Weenus (woman penis maybe?) to sell me out by voting to "Accept". Now I get to figure out how to feed my family as my buying power decreases due to inflation the next couple of years. Thanks pal!
 
BigSix said:
The attitudes above are perfect examples of why we will NEVER get anything better at SkyWest. It's rather childish and sad.
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Before you start running your mouth I was a decline vote #1359. I want what the 1300 other accept votes didn't, and that a more fair and legitimate pay package. I'm simply stating to the previous poster what he, you, and I are probably going to see happen eventually.
 
This is like watching a pack of dogs fighting over table scraps!!!! This company just bought 2 companies in the last 10 years(estimated time frame) for half a billion dollars and the pilots are fighting over a single digit raise? WTF folks, this companies purchases are being funded by Crappy wages and employee concessions but none of the workgroups can change how things are going? Has anyone requested a look-see at the books?
 
BigSix said:
Btw SkyNation,

I have no idea what a Weenus is. Maybe you could educate me. I am a male who has a penis that is connected to two large round things (balls) that I used to vote "Decline" while guys like you apparently used your Weenus (woman penis maybe?) to sell me out by voting to "Accept". Now I get to figure out how to feed my family as my buying power decreases due to inflation the next couple of years. Thanks pal!
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We haven't had a raise that kept up with(let alone ahead of)inflation for a long time...even the extremely low inflation of the last couple of years!!!
 
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paid4training said:
This is like watching a pack of dogs fighting over table scraps!!!! This company just bought 2 companies in the last 10 years(estimated time frame) for half a billion dollars and the pilots are fighting over a single digit raise? WTF folks, this companies purchases are being funded by Crappy wages and employee concessions but none of the workgroups can change how things are going? Has anyone requested a look-see at the books?
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Not to mention the 10's of millions loaned to United, and the Scenic Airlines purchase, and the money for Air Mekong, and the airline they bought the maximum legal percentage of in Brazil!
 
Question for the SkyWest brothers and sisters....Does SkyWest management ever tell you that if you are part of ALPA that your dues are TAX-DEDUCTIBLE or do they just sell you the song-and-dance about "you don't want to pay union dues, do you?"
 
paid4training said:
This is like watching a pack of dogs fighting over table scraps!!!! This company just bought 2 companies in the last 10 years(estimated time frame) for half a billion dollars and the pilots are fighting over a single digit raise? WTF folks, this companies purchases are being funded by Crappy wages and employee concessions but none of the workgroups can change how things are going? Has anyone requested a look-see at the books?
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Maybe we should start addressing SkyWest as "Concessions" like we did when Comair was caving in to management a few years ago?
 
Brasilia Pup said:
Question for the SkyWest brothers and sisters....Does SkyWest management ever tell you that if you are part of ALPA that your dues are TAX-DEDUCTIBLE or do they just sell you the song-and-dance about "you don't want to pay union dues, do you?"
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That tax deductible argument is just silly... Did you actually figure out how much it "saved" you on your taxes? It didnt save you 2%, or whatever your dues are....
 

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