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This just in ... merger talks continue with "less generous terms."

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It's pretty simple. Anderson waived his merger-related bonus and Steeland didn't. Now we see what is truly motivating Steeland - he wants to cash out and bail on this sinking industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know you dont help anything with your unfounded flame baiting. you dont even work for the companies in question yet you attempt to fan the flames a lot, why is that? :confused:
 
Does it matter, really? If the hedge fund pricks want the merger, they'll get it.....The nwa pilots wanted their rediculous DOH demands, and will get less now, maybe nothing, and have to deal with it!
Its incredible, first their mec comes back to the bargaining table (loosely used term with regards to nwa), and now their management!

737

Actually you and Moak will be eating crow shortly. Without incentives we need the deal even less, and you are either going to negotiate a fair SLI or you'll get it in arbitration. Keep deluding yourself.
 
FDJ

Do you really think that NWA is the only one wanting this? Do you think that NWA today just came up with this great merger revival on their own? If you do, you are more gullible than I thought. RA, DS, NWA and DAL have their finger prints all over this. Like I said before, this is the deadline. Us pilots take it with incentives or it will go through without them. RA could not come out and say, "we are going to merge without the pilots", because he made you a "promise". How could you trust him in the future if he did that. They found a way. Steenland comes in and does all the dirty work. Steenland has done it before. He locked out the mechs and almost did it to the FAs. Then he screwed everyone that NWA owed money to. And the worst part of it all is, that he(Steenland) sleeps good at night even though he ruined thousands of families. As for RA, he is not any better than Steenland. He walked away from NWA in its darkest hour. He will do it with DAL too if he had to. Just because he can. He doesn't care about the pilots.

We can't stop this from happening dude. You might think that you can but I think you are wrong. If an SLI is not reached, they will say that they are going to save us from ourselves and do it anyways. They will say that they needed to save both companies in these trying times and give us nothing for it. They will say that by moving forward expeditiously and merging they will be saving all our jobs. We should all be grateful to at least have a job....

You say "that was then, this is now", I agree. But they know that they cannot go back on the original deal.The bennies will still be there if we act now. If not, they will do it anyways and we will get nothing. That would be a shame...
By the way, this is not a personal attack on you...

WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER OR THEY WIN...


The only management that apparently still wants this merger is NWA. I'm not too sure DAL is interested at this point. DAL maybe looking at different strategic alternatives.
 
It's interesting that NWA management doesn't find NWALPA relevant, let's see if DAL management thinks the same about DALPA.

FDJ,

Of COURSE management doesn't see NWA ALPA (or DAL ALPA) as relevant. The only difference between our groups is that the NWA guys already KNEW this, and you guys were buying into the press releases, despite our best attempts in trying to warn you guys

As someone from our ALPA forum said "this is typical management...the carrot and the stick...they tried the carrot, now here comes the stick". If you guys don't believe that you will be on the same sh!t end of the stick as the NWA guys, then you will be sadly disappointed.

BTW, Anderson and his head honchos cancelled their travel plans this weekend for several initial DAL international flights. DAL has no poison pill, and the stock is near record lows.

Nu
 
Actually you and Moak will be eating crow shortly. Without incentives we need the deal even less,
Then why do you guys keep calling???
You're like the fat kid at the dance who nobody wants to dance with!

and you are either going to negotiate a fair SLI or you'll get it in arbitration. Keep deluding yourself.
We tried a fair sli, your side's rediculous demands didn't work, get it!?;)

737
 
FDJ,

BTW, Anderson and his head honchos cancelled their travel plans this weekend for several initial DAL international flights. DAL has no poison pill, and the stock is near record lows.

Nu

Well if you used some honesty in reporting you would also say why these few flights were cancelled. Do you want to or do you want me to? It had nothing to do with oil or the economy even though thats what you were hinting at.
 
FDJ,


BTW, Anderson and his head honchos cancelled their travel plans this weekend for several initial DAL international flights. DAL has no poison pill, and the stock is near record lows.

Nu

Heyas nuguy.....
ALL airline stocks are at record lows, nwa included. Or did you conviently forget that too?

737
 
Actually you and Moak will be eating crow shortly. Without incentives we need the deal even less, and you are either going to negotiate a fair SLI or you'll get it in arbitration. Keep deluding yourself.

If we go to arbitration, we go to arbitration, but I still doubt there will be a merger regardless how much NWA management and pilots want it.
 
FDJ,

Of COURSE management doesn't see NWA ALPA (or DAL ALPA) as relevant. The only difference between our groups is that the NWA guys already KNEW this, and you guys were buying into the press releases, despite our best attempts in trying to warn you guys


That attitude is precisely why you are not relevant and why it took DALPA leadership to create the transaction framework agrement.

BTW, Anderson and his head honchos cancelled their travel plans this weekend for several initial DAL international flights.
Nu

DAL just had its entire MD88 fleet grounded, you don't think they might be trying to get the airline running on schedule again do you?
 
Memo out today states that the will be working the MD-88 AD all weekend. It is on the DAL net below the trim tab. I am guessing that is where these guys will be this weekend.
 
Well if you used some honesty in reporting you would also say why these few flights were cancelled. Do you want to or do you want me to? It had nothing to do with oil or the economy even though thats what you were hinting at.

Heyas,

I don't need to hint at anything:

"Anderson had planned to take Delta's first flight Saturday to London's Heathrow airport; that route is becoming available as the result of an open skies agreement that takes effect Sunday between the European Union and the United States. Delta has been seeking the route for decades.

Meanwhile, Bastian canceled plans to go along with Gov. Sonny Perdue on Delta's first flight Sunday between Atlanta and Shanghai, China -- another route Delta has long lobbied to get."

Sounds like something important came up. I'm sure that RA has competent people who can re-wrap some wire bundles in their MD-88s without him looking over their shoulder.

Nu
 
Anderson and Bastian not available this weekend? Hmmmmm. My bet would be secret talks between Delta and Aeroflot. Delta pilots could be stapled onto the bottom of the Aeroflot list and fly 35-year old Tupolevs (still more advanced than the NWA Diesel 9s). One benefit: I am sure the stews would be far younger and a lot HOTTER.
 
You guys are funny.... Yeap, I can see Bastian and Anderson rolling up their sleeves and getting to work on those MD-80 inspections. Article I read said that all inpections to be completed by Friday evening...
It also said that it only affected 3% of the DAL schedule was affected. Normally airlines cancel about 1.5% of their flights daily. 3% for two days is not something that will make Anderson cancel a ride on DAL's inaugural trip to Heathrow. DAL has been lobbying for this a long time...

But I will go with your story. They are in the hangar in ATL with their sleeves rolled up, removing floor boards on MD-80s....


Memo out today states that the will be working the MD-88 AD all weekend. It is on the DAL net below the trim tab. I am guessing that is where these guys will be this weekend.
 

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