The State of Georgia and Delta

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In related news, the Georgia Senate and House Transportation committees will meet Sept. 22 to discuss what the state can do to keep Delta Air Lines viable and assist those that are impacted. Delta has 20,000 employees in Georgia.



"The loss of Delta Air Lines would have a major impact on Georgia's economy," Sen. Bill Stephens (R-Canton), chairman of the Senate Transportation Committee said. "If 20,000 people lose their jobs here, it is going to affect more than just those people -- it will affect the entire area south of Atlanta -- so we have to act now and decisively to make sure that our economy doesn't suffer a downturn."


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General....

If I remember correctly, the State of Minnesota did the same thing for NWAC back in the early 90's. It wouldn't surprise me if GA, OH, UT and KY did some of the same.

Being a GA taxpayer, I would hate to see raised rates, however, my employment is directly tied to DAL as well.
 

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The State of Georgia can buy some cheap forclosure houses in Peachtree City and use them to house all of these hurricane victums that are pouring into our state.

Hopefully our taxpayers will not have to pay one cent to DAL, we paid their high fares for years before AirTran arrived.
 

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General Lee said:
In related news, the Georgia Senate and House Transportation committees will meet Sept. 22 to discuss what the state can do to keep Delta Air Lines viable and assist those that are impacted. Delta has 20,000 employees in Georgia.



"The loss of Delta Air Lines would have a major impact on Georgia's economy," Sen. Bill Stephens (R-Canton), chairman of the Senate Transportation Committee said. "If 20,000 people lose their jobs here, it is going to affect more than just those people -- it will affect the entire area south of Atlanta -- so we have to act now and decisively to make sure that our economy doesn't suffer a downturn."


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How about forgoing landing and gate fees for say.......oh never mind the city would never do that!!!!
 

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How about letting a company succeed or fail on its own business plan.
 

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General Lee said:
"If 20,000 people lose their jobs here, it is going to affect more than just those people -- it will affect the entire area south of Atlanta -- so we have to act now and decisively to make sure that our economy doesn't suffer a downturn."

South of Atlanta??? sounds like they are worried about the housing market in Peachtree City! Guess they'll have to sell their 1.5 Million dollar houses. What about those North, West and East??? I dont get it...
 

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From Sleepy:

Hopefully our taxpayers will not have to pay one cent to DAL, we paid their high fares for years before AirTran arrived.



Thanks for your astute(sp) insight.

My tax money right now is going to Oil companies while they are making record profits. Don't be so small minded or one sided.
 

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sleepy said:
The State of Georgia can buy some cheap forclosure houses in Peachtree City and use them to house all of these hurricane victums that are pouring into our state.
About the most ignorant thing I have heard out of your fingers.

Now Sleepy is a professional realtor too!

Let me explain the PTC market to you sometime.

Yes, DAL pilots will be selling homes, but unless they try to get an unreasonable price and refuse to negotioiate, the homes will sell and they will downsize.

Peachtree city has alot of DAL employees, but they have alot more employed at other companies outside the airlines.

Joking about someone losing their job and their home is pretty taseless too.

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Medeco said:
...DAL pilots will be selling homes, but unless they try to get an unreasonable price and refuse to negotioiate, the homes will sell and they will downsize.

Peachtree city has alot of DAL employees, but they have alot more employed at other companies outside the airlines...
I hope you are correct for the sake of the DAL employees who are forced to downsize. The PTC market, as well as Atlanta, the state, and the southeast in general haven't been exactly booming to begin with...compared with other major city housing markets.

This isn't going to help PTC at all.

Plus - if Georgia galvanizes for DAL the same way they did for BRAC, don't look for much help. Both Forts McPherson and Gillem are closing/realigning; another hit on the area's real estate market.

Seems as if the timing couldn't be worse.
 

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Sounds like alot of animosity towards DAL from some of you folks. Why is that?
Not trying to flaim bait, but ...ease up...Flying at a Bankrupt carrier is no fun. I might be losing my house in the near future as well. I don't wish that on anyone.
 

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How funny...

Some Mo' Fo' Welfare for Delta pilots!

What a disgrace, let the place fold......

can only blame 9/11, LCC's, and the big evil oil conspircay so much folks!..

Who would have thought? Pompous old DAL sounding like a whiny liberal...
 
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how about we let the free market decide who survives, and stop the government welfare assistance to the airlines, funded by the taxpayer

Delta can file Ch.11 if they want government endorsed protection
 

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Gulfstream 200 said:
How funny...

Some Mo' Fo' Welfare for Delta pilots!

What a disgrace, let the place fold......

can only blame 9/11, LCC's, and the big evil oil conspircay so much folks!..

Who would have thought? Pompous old DAL sounding like a whiny liberal...

You're cool! Let me guess, you work for an oil company? Traitor!

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satpak77 said:
how about we let the free market decide who survives, and stop the government welfare assistance to the airlines, funded by the taxpayer

Delta can file Ch.11 if they want government endorsed protection

That's great and all, but they should have started that with United and USair. Delta has tried to stay out of court for 4 years now. So, not allowing them the same protection is wrong. If United and USAir would have gone away, chances are Delta and the others would have been better off by now too. Also, if many had their way, personal bankruptcy people should be shot too. This is America--and everyone gets a second chance. But, three years in Chap 11 may be a tad bit too much. A time limit should be in order. (hence the new rules---18 months will be the limit)

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Those subsidies are a totally different form of hand out. They are in place to benefit the consumer, not an airline. Those could have been offered to a host of other airlines but AirTran sought them out.


I fully expect the city of ATL and the state of Georgia to come forward with a number of proposals that will help keep Delta operating. Can't blame them a bit. I don't want to see Delta people negatively affected by this as I have numurous friends working and retired from Delta. I just hope we at AirTran could expect some help down the road should we be in the same predicament.

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IAHERJ said:
Those subsidies are a totally different form of hand out. They are in place to benefit the consumer, not an airline. Those could have been offered to a host of other airlines but AirTran sought them out.


I fully expect the city of ATL and the state of Georgia to come forward with a number of proposals that will help keep Delta operating. Can't blame them a bit. I don't want to see Delta people negatively affected by this as I have numurous friends working and retired from Delta. I just hope we at AirTran could expect some help down the road should we be in the same predicament.

IAHERJ

If you ever unfortunately have to go this road I bet you would. The State of Georgia has to look at the possible outcomes of any bankruptcy. Delta is one of the largest employers in the State, and I can see why they would be nervous. I think Georgia would try to help any large employer. It is very political down here.

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does that apply to the subsidies AirTran gets to fly to some cities?

Delta/ASA never ever had any EAS subsidies out of DFW of course....
 

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Don't think he's talking about EAS subsidies.....He might be talking of the subs. which they got for, I believe TLH or GNV. And now have gotten for SRQ. Each city had service, and prob. fairly good service. Sarasota I believe plopped down 1.5million for airtran to come in. This of course after chasing out UAL/AA and such. they still have DAL/US/CAL........
 

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General Lee said:
If you ever unfortunately have to go this road I bet you would. The State of Georgia has to look at the possible outcomes of any bankruptcy. Delta is one of the largest employers in the State, and I can see why they would be nervous. I think Georgia would try to help any large employer. It is very political down here.

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Lets see if we can get both the State of Georgia and the federal government to lighten up on the puntive taxes that are a huge part of any airline ticket...not just for Delta but for every airline. That's a big part of what's dragging the industry down.
 
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