The proper Jeppesen Approach Briefing

[islandhoper]

Does anybody have a link or information about material on how Jeppesen actually thinks an approach should be briefed?
I have to come up with something for a flight school, so it has to be good. Thanks

Thanks

 

[norskman2]

Here's info off a different board:

Using: http://www.trifocus.net/~casey/slw/slw%20001.jpg

Basically you want to read the second and third lines. Be sure to check that the visibility outside exceeds the minimums for the approach, or you'll brief for no reason. Be sure to point out any "gotchas" in the notes section or anything you notice on the chart that you think is worth pointing out. For example:

"Saltillo (Name of airport if there is more than 1 in each city, e.g. LGA or JFK) VOR-DME 1, Runway 17. 13-1, 18 July 03 (to make sure the other pilot has the same chart and that it's current). ((Skip the com frequencies!)). Saltillo VOR is 116.1, final approach course is 172. Final approach fix is 7.0 DME, and we'll be at 6800. Our MDA is 5300' which is 654 AGL. Required visibility for the approach is ___ (look at bottom here). Touchdown Zone elevation is 4646. Highest MSA is 13,400 to the East and South. Our missed approach is climb outbound on the Saltillo 162 radial. At 5 DME we'll turn right direct the Saltillo VOR and continue outbound on the 008 radial from the VOR on the approach track to the minimum holding altitude. We'll step down to 5500 until 3 DME then down to the MDA. Any questions?"

You might also want to talk about how you're going to configure and at what point... stepdown fixes are also good to talk about on non-precision approaches. The above is just a basic example...

 

[macdu]

If your brief lasts longer than 20 seconds my eyes will be glazing over if it's a CAT1, VOR, LOC. A CATII, III, is another story. An NDB is an emergency!
A brief is just that, brief.

 

[geshields]

If your brief lasts longer than 20 seconds my eyes will be glazing over if it's a CAT1, VOR, LOC. A CATII, III, is another story. An NDB is an emergency!
A brief is just that, brief.

Oh so true...if the other guy/gal goes over about 20-30 seconds, anything after that is point is "blah blah bah de blah". That is all I hear...

 

[mushroom]

Basically you want to read the second and third lines. Be sure to check that the visibility outside exceeds the minimums for the approach, or you'll brief for no reason. Be sure to point out any "gotchas" in the notes section or anything you notice on the chart that you think is worth pointing out.

Hence the Jepp term "Briefing Strip" in that area. Works well.

 

[P-Dawg_QX]

"Visual 28L, same way we did it the other 4 times today. Complete."

 

[AQ PILOT]

There should be a FAR against guys who do a full brief, including Missed, on a CAVU day.... I like P-dawgs idea...

 

[Vastly Underemp]

"See it, land on it, don't f*** it up, questions?"

 

[Hulk Hogan]

PF: this will be an ILS 24....PNF: No Questions.

 

[Sailpilot]

This plane, that runway...... Questions?

Oh-ya, what time do you think the Bar closes?

 

[BOHICAgain]

Visual App. 9R left hand turn off

 

[mach none]

It should be like a skirt.

Long enough to cover the subject, but short enough to make it interesting.

 

[PanPan]

PF: What runway they uzin?
PNF: 9L.
PF: Did ya string it?
PNF: Yup.
PF: Any questions?
PNF: We only got a 30 minute turn, what you want to eat?
PF: Popeye's works for me. Briefing complete.

 

[SELCAL checks]

There's a runway at the end of every ILS.

 

[flatspin7]

I use the briefing strip on the plate its pretty concise and you never are hunting for information. I also brief the date of issue on the top of the plate. I breif the published missed only if the airport is advising the approach on the atis, if its a visual I normally brief runway heading up to 2000 feet (agl). I also throw in Flap Setting, Speeds, Autobrakes, Reverse Use, and planned turnoff. (And yes it only take 15-20 seconds)

 

[glasspilot1]

When us TWA folks went over to the AA side we were absolutely amazed at all the talking they did. For an approach briefing they basically read the entire page, even in VFR. It's since been shortened closer to what we used to do.

 

[Vne]

604-804 questions?

 

[StuckMic]

I use the briefing strip on the plate its pretty concise and you never are hunting for information. I also brief the date of issue on the top of the plate. I breif the published missed only if the airport is advising the approach on the atis, if its a visual I normally brief runway heading up to 2000 feet (agl). I also throw in Flap Setting, Speeds, Autobrakes, Reverse Use, and planned turnoff. (And yes it only take 15-20 seconds)

Why do you brief a missed approach altitude of 2000 feet AGL? Traffic pattern altitude for turbine airplanes is 1500 AGL.

 

[AutoBus]

Does anybody have a link or information about material on how Jeppesen actually thinks an approach should be briefed?
I have to come up with something for a flight school, so it has to be good. Thanks

Thanks

This guy must be a Riddle Cadet!!

 

[airplane wizard]

Approach brief: "we're going to land"