The NetJets Scab list threat...

[DO-82 driver]

Diesel,


Part of the reason NJI has what they have is because NJA IS Unionized. RTS just wanted to stick it to the, then fairly small, EJA pilot group for going Teamsters.

Mind you though...NJI is still grossly underpaid for what they do if you look at the industry averages.....

If we get more money then they will probably get more too...... alot of those guys are secretly routing for us but aren't really free to express those thoughts openly. They have everything to gain by NJA winning.

Stay Strong....1 week to go!!!!!!

 

[semperfido]

Diesel,

routing

don't you mean rooting

we root for teams...we route airplanes

 

[DO-82 driver]

I stand corrected....thank you Semperfido

 

[Diesel]

Young man, you can walk a picket line until you wear holes in your shoes, I could care less. I will continue to fly; your customers, my customers,

I think that was my favorite part.

Of course Do82 has more hair on his back than this guy has on his head.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Yeah we work for separate companies. I did 3 GIV trips last week. Don't embarrass yourself by saying we are different companies.

If you flew 100 so-called G-IV trips, what would that prove?



Let’s say ASA Flight 4566 from ATL-JAX cancelled today because of a mechanical, so now 50 passengers who bought a ticket on Delta Airlines won’t be flying to JAX on the flight they thought they would. So they go see customer service, and low and behold they get put on the very next flight. But wait, now their going to JAX on a Delta 757. Delta owns ASA, and Delta owns Delta. The customer has a seamless transition with a minor delay, and they arrive in JAX where they wanted to go when they bought their ticket.



So now do the ASA pilots work for ASA or Delta? Everyone knows the answer, and you don’t see ASA pilots running around screaming for a List Integration, or demanding they be merged with Delta Pilots.



Same analogy applies for your company and mine. We may be owned by the same corporation, but we work for separate companies. Different Management, operating certificates, different operation centers, etc. etc. It’s called Corporate America, and its how a company like Starbucks can own their biggest competitor, Seattle’s Best.



The most worrisome aspect of what your union is attempting here is their total lack of respect for a fellow pilot. You have no interest in the welfare of NJI employees, nor are you attempting to right a major whipsaw. NJI flies 1 aircraft type, period. Your company is 4 times the size of ours, and yet the ever faithful IBT just can’t refuse to drag us into the mix for nothing more than bargaining fodder. And then for the icing on the cake, you accuse NJI pilots of being future scabs. Your group reminds me of the CNN green video of the Gulf War in Baghdad when the Iraqis were shooting AA guns wildly into night sky hoping to hit something, anything.



Jealously sucks and you knew what you were getting into when you signed on. If you don’t like your current employer, it’s America; go find another job. Or if you want, go on strike if it makes you happy. But dragging someone who has no dog in your fight into your debacle is less than honorable in my book. Of course, I can’t speak for my entire group, because we, well……. speak for ourselves.

 

[Intreped1]

Just remember this if you think of becoming a SCAB.

Do you want your family and friends to remember you as a SCAB long after your gone?


IE..., your Urn up on the Mantle.
Grandson: Mom why was my Grandpa a SCAB?

 

[x402]

Really, is that te best you can do? ASA/Delta? These are two ALPA companies and if there an inadvertant mingling of flights, I sure that can be worked out. However, there is NO such seperation between NJI/NJA. We are both products of RTS. ASA and Delta are code shares, period. If ASA goes away, Delta will use Mesa, Air whiskey or anyone else.
When NJA can't get a XL to Mr. Big they send a GIV. When Mr Big doesn't want to pay for the ACK/BOS GV he uses the CE560. We are one big unhappy familly.

 

[AA717driver]

Really, is that te best you can do? ASA/Delta? These are two ALPA companies and if there an inadvertant mingling of flights, I sure that can be worked out. However, there is NO such seperation between NJI/NJA. We are both products of RTS. ASA and Delta are code shares, period. If ASA goes away, Delta will use Mesa, Air whiskey or anyone else.
When NJA can't get a XL to Mr. Big they send a GIV. When Mr Big doesn't want to pay for the ACK/BOS GV he uses the CE560. We are one big unhappy familly.

"Inadvertant mingling" It's not inadvertent. It's intentional. It's called an equipment sub. Ask an agent.

"When NJA can't get a XL to Mr. Big they send a GIV." Equipment sub.

No such separation between NJI/NJA? Different certificates. Different corporate officers. Different training. Different operations. It's even more separate than the formal code sharing arrangements between airlines.

When NJA can't cover a flight, they also use 135 operators. Are you gonna include all the 135 operators in the country in your single carrier filing?

Or is calling them scabs sufficient?TC

 

[Starman]

I guess the NJI weasels are pretty worried. Posting on a message board to plead their case. Sorry boys, the judge ain't gonna be too worried about how you plead your case here.

 

[Geronimo4497]

Wow

You know, as I recall, didn't we all (MOST, I should say) get involved with flying because it is fun? I think all you miserable types should go get desk jobs and continue to be miserable, but at least you would make some real money for a change. Then I could take your seat in the 'front office' and do it with a smile.

Oh wait, flying is fun, right?

I'm going to go back to flying my nice Pilatus around and having some FUN!

Life is way too short to get wrapped up in all of this BS.