The NetJets Scab list threat...

[Daveman]

I was curious as to how the pro-"scab-list" NJ pilots were going to acquire the names of these so-called scabs. Stalk FBO's? Copy tail numbers? I don't know?

Hey, anyone who decides to fly for Q.S. or any affliate while the pilots are on strike is a scab and should be dealt with.
Joe Blow who flies for ACME charter Co. that happens to pick up one of NJ's trip should be left alone period. Enough said.

 

[brokeflyer]

I was just hired at NetJets this week. We do all need to stick together. I would not have any harsh feelings about a plane from another operator flying our people. When dispatch calls, you go where your told and I will do whatever I can to feed my family. And I'm sure all the charter pilots will do the same. Lets all just stick together as pilots, it is management vs. pilots....remember that. WE share the sky together. We don't share it with management.

 

[414Flyer]

So if people can just make up their own definition of scabs, which happens on this message board a fair amount it seems, couldnt higher paid corporate pilots then call those same NJ pilots scabs for then taking that low of a pay?

Looks I know its not a scab. Just remembering how some people called Mesa pilots scabs for taking a job with that low of starting pay. But I do think it is rather ironic that certain NJ pilots, who are unfortunately vastly underpaid, are trying to dictate to others in the industry, who are probably higher paid on the same equipment, what they can do and cant do in their job.

Also am pretty sure most NJ pilots would not be involved in this, but those who are tossing around scab, are making themselves look ridiculous.

 

[Grim Reaper]

This whole SCAB list thing is NUCKING FUTS.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

NJI is a no brainer.

Let me understand this correctly. You're saying if you (meaning NJA pilots) go on strike and a NJI pilot goes to work flying his/her Gulfstream, then they will be branded a SCAB?



If my memory serves me right, when Comair went on strike in 2001, Both Delta Mainline and ASA pilots continued to work, and all three airlines were owned by the same corporation. Neither group was considered SCABS because they continued to work, flying their own aircraft, not Comairs.



I think you gentlemen and ladies at NJA need to carefully evaluate what you’re saying on these and other web boards. Your comments and innuendos are certainly not gaining support from pilots who you will need it from; if and when a work stoppage occurs. Aviation is a small society.

 

[illeagle]

Well said Wolfpack!
NJ Pilots- Stick it to the man!!! Not the other slumps in the front seats of other propelled alluminium tubes. We all do a job and want to pay our bills, hopefully you at NJ will have more dough to cook with when this is all through.

 

[AA717driver]

Good post, Wolfpack. No one here says NJA shouldn't get a better contract. It's how they do it that is at issue.TC

 

[Rubber Ducky]

It just occurred to me that nobody that has put a post on this entire thread appears to be both an employee of NetJets AND tossing out the "SCAB" word. We have all been talking each other in circles making it appear that there are pro scab list NetJets pilots. I'm gonna go now.

 

[brokeflyer]

me too

 

[Diesel]

i don't give a sh!t if you're flying a GIV GV or Ultra. You're flying a plane that has QS tail number. Unlike ASA and Delta you're flying a plane that is completely interchangeable with a Citation X on the ramp. Actually in the last 4 trips in the X 3 have them been G whiz customers.

So you might want to work on your evaluation of what you want to be in life. I know aviation is a small society. My name will hold up just as good as anyone's on the road.

 

[Clutch_Cargo]

It just occurred to me that nobody that has put a post on this entire thread appears to be both an employee of NetJets AND tossing out the "SCAB" word. We have all been talking each other in circles making it appear that there are pro scab list NetJets pilots. I'm gonna go now.

me too

I thought the guy who started the original threads, now deleted, was a NJ guy... don't know for sure though and can't remember his name to look it up.

cc

 

[LXJ31]

It was something like Beytzim...and yes there was a thread. Three of them actually on different forums.

 

[pmcustom]

I have a quick question. If the pilots strike, would the NJA mechanics (at CMH) be forced to strike too? Or would they continue working as normal?

 

[Mach92]

I have a quick question. If the pilots strike, would the NJA mechanics (at CMH) be forced to strike too? Or would they continue working as normal?

No not normal. My understanding is they will honor our picket line. Also several other places that do MX on QS tails have said they will also honor our picket line in the event of a strike. (think big here folks)

NetJets management really needs to stop trying to figure out ways to operate during a walk out. They should be comming up with real numbers for a good CBA both sides can live with.

 

[LR45JI]

I believe that Signature Line-Service Support is unionized as well.

About a year ago - there was a Falcon strike and it was honored by NJ crews.

In the event this goes down, there will be far-reaching ramifications that many have not considered.

 

[AA717driver]

Diesel--The people who flew from CVG on Delta or ASA or (had they flown CVG flights during the strike) Skywest during the Comair strike ALL flew on DL flight numbers.

Didn't Comair try the same single carrier thing on Delta? Wonder how that's working out...TC

 

[njets]

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[RustyFan]

So you might want to work on your evaluation of what you want to be in life. I know aviation is a small society. My name will hold up just as good as anyone's on the road.

Well you should be proud of yourself little man, after all these years, you’ve finally convinced me to sign up on this web board, just so I can tell you this.



I’ve been there, done that, and have seen just about everything good and bad there is to flying airplanes for a living. I’ve got more time on furlough than you probably have at NJA, and I don’t take lightly to ignorant fools like you calling me a scab. Unlike you, I worked at an auto parts store while scabs flew my airplane, only to see my whole airline go under. Your lack of understanding within the confines of what is legal and what is wishful thinking are arrogantly obvious to those of us who actually step back, listen and observe what is taking place. For years I’ve read the comments on these boards, sometimes laughing, sometimes not.



Your cowboy attitude is quick frankly, hilarious. Your dribble and demeaning banter to those pilots who attempt to show you the error of your ways only confirms what I have known all to well for some time now; you don’t know what you’re talking about. I believe you are (as you say) “all whacked out on uppers and downers”.



Now, on to what I really want to say:



After years of putting up with flying freight in the 70’s, airlines in the 80’s, hopping from one charter department to the next in the 90’s, I finally found myself with what I like to consider the “best **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**” flying job in aviation. Several pilots have correctly alluded to NJI being the world’s best operator of Gulfstream aircraft, and we are. And I am quite proud of who I work for. My employer pays me very well, they look after my personal needs, my family needs, and they have more than once showed me that they care for their employees as much as they do their customers. And that is why a union on NJI property has a snow ball’s chance in hell. We actually enjoy going to work, as is evident by the smiles on our face when you guys give us the F*U face in the FBO’s.



Young man, you can walk a picket line until you wear holes in your shoes, I could care less. I will continue to fly; your customers, my customers, and anyone my employer tells me fly. And when your union leadership decides to place me on a scab list, I will gladly see in you in a court of law where I will sue your union for defamation of character, personal damages, and anything else my attorneys think I can get!

WE WORK FOR SEPARATE COMPANIES.......


Understand little man?


So everyone, how’s that for a 1st post.

 

[El Chupacabra]

You did not spell separate correctly.

 

[RustyFan]

Good Catch.

Thanks.............