The NetJets Scab list threat...

[G100driver]

Barking up the wrong tree? Instead of penalizing the 135 pilot that is just doing his or her job, why not penalize the pilot managers, assistant chief on up, who expect their pilots to fly NetJets work during a strike? Although not "scabs", they are aware that they are accepting payment from NetJets to fly struck work.

Still barking up the wrong tree. Pilot managers work for owners. People that have airplanes on certificate expect revenue and really do not give a rats arse about NetJets. Why would those pilot managers ect put their jobs at risk for doing nothing more than doing the job that has been asked of them.

Do you think that in '84 UAL pilots held a grudges against AA pilots who flew UAL ticketed passengers? If you answered no to this question then how should 135 pilots who fly for seperate certificate holders be treated?

 

[Rubber Ducky]

Are you saying that in '84 UAL management called AA management and said, "we've got 300 pax at gate A14, how about sending one of your "charter" aircraft over to gate A14 to take them to Miami."? I wasn't paying much attention in '84 if this was true. That's much different than those 300 pax going to the AA counter and exchanging their own ticket. If the 135 company management declines the struck work NetJets sell-off they could receive a direct call from the pax and do the trip directly for the client.

 

[Sun Tzu]

There is whole lot of uncertantity out there right now with the Netjets pilots. Don't let a few emoitional posts rule the day. I'm sure when and if the time comes, cool heads will prevail and only the pilots that earn the title "SCAB" will be given it. Doing charter trips for Netjets under strike conditions is the same as doing them right now. Our beef is with the contract violoations and not the charter companies. As a Netjets pilot, I would not expect any Charter pilots to risk thier job so that I could keep mine. Hopefully ASAP will have much better luck with negoitiations, and legal recourse to get the company to play fair.

Netjets
Leave nothing to chance!!!!

 

[Rubber Ducky]

Are you saying that in '84 UAL management called AA management and said, "we've got 300 pax at gate A14, how about sending one of your "charter" aircraft over to gate A14 to take them to Miami."? I wasn't paying much attention in '84 if this was true. That's much different than those 300 pax going to the AA counter and exchanging their own ticket. If the 135 company management declines the struck work NetJets sell-off they could receive a direct call from the pax and do the trip directly for the client.

 

[400A]

There is whole lot of uncertantity out there right now with the Netjets pilots. Don't let a few emoitional posts rule the day. I'm sure when and if the time comes, cool heads will prevail and only the pilots that earn the title "SCAB" will be given it. Doing charter trips for Netjets under strike conditions is the same as doing them right now. Our beef is with the contract violoations and not the charter companies. As a Netjets pilot, I would not expect any Charter pilots to risk thier job so that I could keep mine. Hopefully ASAP will have much better luck with negoitiations, and legal recourse to get the company to play fair.

Netjets
Leave nothing to chance!!!!

Well said Sun, As I said before, the charter operators can actually be more help by flying. Doubling NetJets cost, and having Owners unhappy about riding on too many charters will put more pressure on Mgt. to resolve their issues with you.

 

[400A]

Are you saying that in '84 UAL management called AA management and said, "we've got 300 pax at gate A14, how about sending one of your "charter" aircraft over to gate A14 to take them to Miami."? I wasn't paying much attention in '84 if this was true. That's much different than those 300 pax going to the AA counter and exchanging their own ticket. If the 135 company management declines the struck work NetJets sell-off they could receive a direct call from the pax and do the trip directly for the client.

Well, actually, I think the gate agents that had the screaming passengers in front of them did it.

They may not have chartered whole airplanes, but they sure checked on empty seats.

 

[G100driver]

There is whole lot of uncertantity out there right now with the Netjets pilots. Don't let a few emoitional posts rule the day. I'm sure when and if the time comes, cool heads will prevail and only the pilots that earn the title "SCAB" will be given it. Doing charter trips for Netjets under strike conditions is the same as doing them right now. Our beef is with the contract violoations and not the charter companies. As a Netjets pilot, I would not expect any Charter pilots to risk thier job so that I could keep mine. Hopefully ASAP will have much better luck with negoitiations, and legal recourse to get the company to play fair.

Netjets
Leave nothing to chance!!!!

Nice to see a voice of reason on this very emotional issue.

Rubber Ducky, you still did not answer my orginal question. Should pilot managers risk their jobs for saying no to NetJet charters?

 

[Rubber Ducky]

Pilot managers have a responsibility to protect their employees from being put in the situation of flying struck work.

 

[G100driver]

Wrong ... pilot managers (in the non 91K world)have a responsiblity to the aircraft owners. Nice try.

Many pilot managers are nothing more than pilots given the responsiblity of flying and managing an aircraft. Your labor beef is just that ... your labor beef, not ours. I do wish you all the luck in the world and if you look at my past post you will see that I am a strong labor supporter.

If you include the rest of the world in you labor issues you will cause nothing more than resentment towards the NetJet pilot group.

Get enough owners on a non-QS registered aircraft and it will get noticed.

 

[G100driver]

So, should a pilot manager get fired to support your labor cause?