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The National Mediation Board (NMB) representation election voting period is now open!

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The NMB will mail each eligible SkyWest pilot telephone voting instructions, a confidential voter identification number (VIN) and personal identification number (PIN) to vote in the representation election. There are two important matters you need to know about the election process:
1 - If you have not received your telephone voting instructions and VIN/PIN by October 15, 2007, you should immediately request duplicate telephone voting instructions and duplicate VIN/PIN from the NMB. You cannot vote without this information. To receive duplicate telephone voting instructions, you must request them personally, in writing, from the NMB by November 1, 2007. (Download a ballot request letter here in PDF or Word)
2 - To vote for representation, you must call the NMB toll free at 1-877-NMB-VOTE (1-877-662-8683) and follow the voice prompts. Calls can be made 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, until 1200 PM MDT on November 6, 2007.
 
The NMB will mail each eligible SkyWest pilot telephone voting instructions, a confidential voter identification number (VIN) and personal identification number (PIN) to vote in the representation election. There are two important matters you need to know about the election process:
1 - If you have not received your telephone voting instructions and VIN/PIN by October 15, 2007, you should immediately request duplicate telephone voting instructions and duplicate VIN/PIN from the NMB. You cannot vote without this information. To receive duplicate telephone voting instructions, you must request them personally, in writing, from the NMB by November 1, 2007. (Download a ballot request letter here in PDF or Word)
2 - To vote for representation, you must call the NMB toll free at 1-877-NMB-VOTE (1-877-662-8683) and follow the voice prompts. Calls can be made 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, until 1200 PM MDT on November 6, 2007.

If you have done your homework and are leaning toward yes, don't wait. Your vote will count. This election will most likely be very close and your vote may be the one that gets the majority. You can contact anyone one the OC www.skywestalpa.org or call 1-888-759-2572 to get help obtaining your individual telephone voting instructions.

Thanks and Fly Safe!!
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SkyWest guys,

From an ALPA guy. Vote your conscience and for what you feel will be best for your career not just at SkyWest but as you move forward. Don't buy into the BS about hiring at Southwest. There is no sword hanging over heads on this matter.

But we do hope for a representation at OO for the pilot group as a whole. I firmly believe you guys have a golden opportunity before you. Either way you vote, I'll have no animosity toward you guys.
 
On October 9, the National Mediation Board (NMB) mailed each eligible SkyWest pilot
telephone voting instructions along with a confidential voter identification number (VIN)
and personal identification number (PIN) in connection with the current representation
election. The voting period will be from 1201 a.m., ET, October 9, 2007, until 200 p.m.,
ET, November 6, 2007.

There are two important matters you need to know about the election process.

First, if you have not received your telephone voting instructions and VIN/PIN by October
15, 2007, you should immediately request duplicate telephone voting instructions and
duplicate VIN/PIN from the NMB so that you do not lose your opportunity to vote for
representation.

To receive duplicate telephone voting instructions, you must request them personally,
in writing, from the NMB. The NMB will accept a duplicate request sent via overnight
delivery service (such as FedEx).

The NMB will not accept requests for duplicate ballots after November 1, 2007.

Second, to vote for representation, you must call the toll-free NMB telephone voting number at
1-877—NMB-VOTE (1-877-662-8683) and follow the voice prompts. Follow the instructions
and write down the confirmation number you will receive at the end of your call.

Calls can be made 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, beginning at 1201 a.m. ET on
October 9, 2007, and must be completed before 200 p.m. ET on November 6, 2007.
If you have any difficulties with the telephone voting system, feel free to call the NMB at
1-800-488-0019, ext. 5040, (Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 500 p.m. ET).

Remember: Failure to complete the telephone voting process will have the effect of casting
your vote against representation.

This is one of the most important decisions about your future that you will ever make. Get
all of the facts! Plan to attend one of the many SkyWest Pilots ALPA Organizing
Committee events we are hosting, read the materials you receive from the Organizing
Committee, and ask questions of the ALPA representatives and Organizing Committee
members you meet. Visit our website at www.skywestalpa.org for more information and
details on upcoming events. If you have any questions, contact an Organizing Committee
member at 1-888-SKY-ALPA (759-2572), ext. 0.
 
Only seven days left to cast your vote in the NMB representation election. To vote for representation, you must call the NMB toll free at 1-877-662-8683 and follow the voice prompts. Calls can be made 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, until 1200 p.m. MT, November 6, 2007.

Please note: Today, October 31, 2007, is the last day to request replacement voting materials. You must request them personally, in writing, from the NMB. (Download a ballot request letter here in PDF or Word)


You can take the completed form (they may have blank forms on hand) to any of the Pilot Information Meetings and they will overnight FedEx the form for you.
 
There are less than seven days remaining to cast your vote in the NMB representation election. To vote for representation, you must call the NMB toll free at 1-877-662-8683 and follow the voice prompts. Calls can be made 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, until 12:00 p.m. MT, November 6, 2007.
 
so what do you think the results will be? what will you say drove the results? did each side (ALPA vs. SkyWest) present their message adequately?

thanks
 
It wasn't a decision that I made quickly. I talked to a lot of people and attended a couple of ALPA events. The biggest factor for me was talking to both present and former ALPA members, especially those at the regional level. I have had Jerry in my jumpseat three times, I have met Ron (haven't met Chip yet), Klen personally helped me out, I have not met my new chief pilot. So, having met most of my management team (didn't see any horns), having spoken to quite a few ALPA people, having spent too much of my life reading these and the SAPA forums.......... I just shredded my NMB letter. That's a NO for me!
 
auspac,

I think your thoughts are in the majority at SkyWest. what do you think? what will the final result show?

I'm predicting 43% will vote, with the huge majority of that voting ALPA. 57% will vote no by not voting.

when will the results be announced?
 
I didn't take the choice lightly either, but by the time the ballot came, I had made up my mind. I didn't even open it, went right into the shredder. ALPA just isn't a good fit with SkyWest
 
Bus-Driver,

you're new here-welcome! get ready to be attacked, however.
 
SkyNation,
I think 35-40% for. It really is hard to tell. I was never strongly either side, but ALPA just couldn't sell their product to me. If it was an opt out vote, then ALPA would win by a land slide. The apathy of many will help. The poll on SAPA forums has 217 for and 136 against. I believe that ALPA supporters make up the majority of the posters on those forums and these. Over 1300 pilots aren't even registered on the SAPA forums. What are the chances that guys who don't register for that will vote?

Of the small proportion of the seniority list that I have flown with it is definitely a NO vote. SkyWest will continue to grow and SkyWest Inc won't need to start an alter-ego carrier yet.
 
I didn't take the choice lightly either, but by the time the ballot came, I had made up my mind. I didn't even open it, went right into the shredder. ALPA just isn't a good fit with SkyWest

So Jerry can have a contract with his BOD and have representation via his lawyer, but you reject a contract and representation for you?

What about the national and global issues that effect pilots? The Air Line Pilot Profession isn't confined to Skywest.....

People with no voice, the inability to particapte in the process that control thier lives usually live under forms of gov't we reject.

ALPA is a democracy that allows you to influence your future and not force you to take what Jerry and his contract tell you to...
 
I heard that 54 percent of cards were returned. if they all vote for it, it will pass I guess.
 
I cancelled you out. I didn't return a card but I did vote in favor.:D

Ha! Ha! We'll just have to wait and see. I don't have much experience with union drives, but it sure did seem to take a long time from the start of cards being sent in to petitioning the NMB. I think the cards were coming in very slowly.

Also with the number of posts by ALPA OC members on the SAPA website, when they say it's not their offcial website, leads me to question the numbers who frequent the SkyWest Alpa website. I registered and went there a few time for information, but if it was getting substantial traffic I doubt they would have to distribute their information on the SAPA site. Only about half the pilots have registered on the SAPA site, I wonder what the numbers are on the ALPA site - I bet it's pitiful.

Then there is the reluctance of the ALPA OC members to answer the questions of Mr Livingston. Sure, they're loaded questions, and he has an agenda as transparent as their own, but if their argument is strong, what are they afraid of? He's just an almost 60 year old lawyer with limited aviation experience. Debate him, don't be afraid, perhaps they could win over a few of us - if their arguments are strong enough.
 
Ha! Ha! We'll just have to wait and see. I don't have much experience with union drives, but it sure did seem to take a long time from the start of cards being sent in to petitioning the NMB. I think the cards were coming in very slowly.

Also with the number of posts by ALPA OC members on the SAPA website, when they say it's not their offcial website, leads me to question the numbers who frequent the SkyWest Alpa website. I registered and went there a few time for information, but if it was getting substantial traffic I doubt they would have to distribute their information on the SAPA site. Only about half the pilots have registered on the SAPA site, I wonder what the numbers are on the ALPA site - I bet it's pitiful.

Then there is the reluctance of the ALPA OC members to answer the questions of Mr Livingston. Sure, they're loaded questions, and he has an agenda as transparent as their own, but if their argument is strong, what are they afraid of? He's just an almost 60 year old lawyer with limited aviation experience. Debate him, don't be afraid, perhaps they could win over a few of us - if their arguments are strong enough.



Maybe they don't want to debate someone who is so obviously self-serving and completely untrustworthy?!
 
Maybe they don't want to debate someone who is so obviously self-serving and completely untrustworthy?!

Maybe they don't have the answers. Personally I think they weakened their position by ignoring him. They should have shut him down and made him look like an idiot, instead they looked afraid.
 

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