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He runs them just fine.......................right into the ground.
 
Where's Dandy Don Meredith when you need him?




Obscure pop culture reference, I know.
 
How's that Ted thing working out at United. It was the brainchild of Genius John Tague and touted as the saviour of UAL. Yep that's what I thought - long gone and forgotten after the millions spent to reconfigure/paint aircraft (2x), not to mention the marketing costs that just confused the core customers.

Any glimmer of hope for the survival of UAL has been snuffed out by this move.

My sympathies to my brethern at UAL.

Stay alert
 
I'll never forget the sight. Summer of 2002 in KIND. Three B737-800's and 2 B757-300's, brand-spankin' new, sittin' on the ramp/taxiways with no crews to fly them. JT's finite wisdom dictated taking deliveries because we could use the refunded deposits to help keep ATA solvent.

What a dumba$$. He was gone a year later, employed by UAL by 2005, and ATA entered it's first BK in Oct. 2004. He's making more at UAL in one year than his whole ATA career, and George Mikelsons was "Aviator of the Year" in IN.
 
Tague has left scorched earth, but he is just a distraction. United's best hope is in the current administration from Illinois.
 
Only 10 years ago things were quite good under Jerry Greenwald. Too bad the IAM didn't like Edwardson because things probably would have been better under him than Goodwin. Just 10 years ago United was the number 1 airline in the world.
 
Only 10 years ago things were quite good under Jerry Greenwald. Too bad the IAM didn't like Edwardson because things probably would have been better under him than Goodwin. Just 10 years ago United was the number 1 airline in the world.
I tend to agree, Jerry Greenwald seemed to be the best of the CEO's of the last ten years or so. Goodwin was an unbridled disaster, and we all know how Tilton's tenure will be remembered. Very sad to see the destruction of such an iconic Airline.
 
United's best hope is in the current administration from Illinois.


put that crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard......

This industry is about 2 old airline failures away from prosperity..
 
I would like to have read something like, "Tilton and board step down at United. Gordon Bethune (or Herb Kelleher) leaves retirement to rescue ailing airline."
 
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Bob Crandall at AA and Herb at SWA are the only effective ones I can think of. They both did a great job of managing the airline and making money without taking away from the employees. Crandall tried during the FA strike but it didn't work. He threw a chair through his window when the FA's went out. We flew empty airplanes for days with the FA's blessing to keep costs up but the cabin shades were all closed.

UAL has had a long dry spell of management. They do enjoy their bonuses however.
 
Bob Crandall at AA and Herb at SWA are the only effective ones I can think of. They both did a great job of managing the airline and making money without taking away from the employees. Crandall tried during the FA strike but it didn't work. He threw a chair through his window when the FA's went out. We flew empty airplanes for days with the FA's blessing to keep costs up but the cabin shades were all closed.

UAL has had a long dry spell of management. They do enjoy their bonuses however.

Didn't Crandall invent the "B" scale for pilots? How is that not taking away from employees? How about Edwin Colodny at Usair? He was pretty effective.
 

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