The Costa Citationair

[BlueNose]

Don't worry about the next generation, we will be fine. I figure after four more years of Obama and eight years of Hilary, the Socialist workers state should be firmly entrenched and we will all we well taken care of.

Yes, I'm sure most union bosses are confident they'll do well over the next four years. Too bad it'll be at the expense of our liberties and our childrens' future prosperity. Bet the Teamsters were all dancing in the streets, waving their axe handles for joy.

 

[Praetorian]

I can see irony is lost on both of you.

 

[Praetorian]

Bet the Teamsters were all dancing in the streets, waving their axe handles for joy.

No, no, it was baseball batts. Remember?

Get it right.

 

[Sparse]

i can see irony is lost on both of you.

... +1 ...

 

[OHGOON]

Has this ever been the case? Has this ever worked? Do you really want someone else in charge of you?

Hmmm, seems to work for the US military quite well.. How bout the US Congress. No one is complaining there either.

Canada likes it, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Germany. List could go on and on, but I'm sure you will claim that none apply for whatever self serving, non sensical talking points that are ususally employed to dismiss reality.

Enjoy the bubble for as long as you can. :erm:

 

[OHGOON]

If Romney had prevailed you wouldn't have seen any comments like yours.

LOL, now that's hillarious. If you really believe your side is above enjoying a victory then you must have forgotten what happened in Florida in 2000. I know you were around given your current age and apparent wealth.

I just want everyone to have the opportunity my generation had.

If you truly want this as you say here than why do you carry the water of those that are only out for the top 1% and couldn't give a damn about the rest of us? You make no sense..

I don't think it's possible with an ever more intrusive government.

The gooberment, the gooberment; do you ever get tired of this hysterical obsession? Back in the day, you needed less government because society was less interdependent. When's the last time you had to plow your own fields and go into the woods to hunt for food rather than for fun? Give it a rest, I like having functioning electricity, road signs, enforceable rules and really don't fancy becoming a caveman again just because some of you have a romantic fetish for the good ol days.

Good luck to you and your victory.

Thanks, I will enjoy the fact that there were enough people in this country (2.5 million plurality in the popular vote) with enough common sense to see that a Mormon robot with magic underwear was not the better choice for moving forward. He might have been better for taking us back to the past, but I wouldn't really know since I'm not focused in that direction.

Look, may I suggest you turn off Fox Noise for a while. You'll feel better and maybe begin to enjoy life again.

It's just politics; the banks, insurance companies and all other international corporations are really in charge and they will make sure that whatever precious freedom you think the Constitution may provide you will be expressly waived by the fine print we all have to agree to, before we are able to join whatever we feel we can't live without for the moment. Relax, we are all fubar these days, join the party, its all good and still plenty of rich folks to fly around too, you'll see.

It's not the government but the corporations that we should be worrying about!

:beer:

 

[OHGOON]

Yes, I'm sure most union bosses are confident they'll do well over the next four years. Too bad it'll be at the expense of our liberties and our childrens' future prosperity. Bet the Teamsters were all dancing in the streets, waving their axe handles for joy.

I bet you think the Flintstones were actually a documentary, am I right?

 

[Sparse]

If you truly want this as you say here than why do you carry the water of those that are only out for the top 1% and couldn't give a damn about the rest of us? You make no sense..


It's not the government but the corporations that we should be worrying about!

:beer:

Remember. Companies don't pay taxes. They collect taxes. People pay taxes. Raise a company's taxes and they simply pass them along in the form of higher prices. And if you think your are not going to pay more, just remember the words of Leona Helmsley, "little people pay taxes". Gloat in your arrogance my friend but like I say lets debate this in a few years.

 

[gunfyter]

Remember. Companies don't pay taxes. They collect taxes. People pay taxes. Raise a company's taxes and they simply pass them along in the form of higher prices. And if you think your are not going to pay more, just remember the words of Leona Helmsley, "little people pay taxes". Gloat in your arrogance my friend but like I say lets debate this in a few years.

This is true. There was recently a news story where a Denny's raised their prices 5% ... and itemized the increase on the restaurant check as an ObamaCare surcharge.

Most businesses won't itemize like that and people won't know the consequences of voting for Socialism ... but these customers see ObamaCare costs right on their bill.

 

[rigger]

Hmmm, seems to work for the US military quite well.. How bout the US Congress. No one is complaining there either.

Canada likes it, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Germany. List could go on and on, but I'm sure you will claim that none apply for whatever self serving, non sensical talking points that are ususally employed to dismiss reality.

Enjoy the bubble for as long as you can. :erm:

It's hard to explain to you cause I know you don't comprehend true freedom. The military you make a choice to have someone tell you what to do and how to do it. Congress? You are kidding right? No one tells them what to do, they are in congress to tell you what to do..... As for the countries listed.......really that's the best you can do? Eveyone of them have people standing in line to come to America......well that was the case not as much any more you see these countries have tried the experiment for many many years and contrary to your believe they are not doing so well......other then Canada, but if you look real close you will see Canada is much less socialist then the others mentioned....they also embraced.....wait for it....... Tax cuts and lower business taxes to STIMULATE GROWTH.......wait what did they get?????? GROWTH!!!!!! What a concept let people decide where to spend THIER MONEY and wham ......the economy does better.....but they have government healthcare....woooo hooooo 8 moths to get a procedure a lack of dr's ( I have to go 80 miles to get a dr. Cause non closer are taking patients) so I go 5 miles to the USA pay cash and get seen today!!!!! Course I can pay cash in Canada also and get seen at a walkin clinic cause the government won't let dr's have a " private practice" and see people.....that would be bad to actually make money on people who need your services......care for me to go on about what your nuervana is going to be bringing you.......

Now the cool thing called AMERICA was actually formed to get away from the socialist mindset that is Europe.....why are you trying to make America like them? Why not just live there in the socialist nuervana? Live in your tiny house that cost you 50% more then in this country and pay almost 70% of what you make to the government so they can drive you into recession? But at least you'll get your free stuff.....wait is it free? Huh maybe not, maybe you lost your freedom and your money and are now being controlled 100% but hey at least you don't have to be responsible for yourself......by the way how's that working out for them?

 

[rigger]

Man I sure ramble.....I must be getting old as hell!

 

[OHGOON]

It's hard to explain to you cause I know you don't comprehend true freedom.

Yes, just because I disagree with your right wing twisto propaganda I must not understand your precious "true freedom". Arrogant with no facts and or personal experience, spoken like a true Ditto-head....

The military you make a choice to have someone tell you what to do and how to do it. Congress? You are kidding right? No one tells them what to do, they are in congress to tell you what to do.....

Proving you don't even know what socialism actually is. It's not about who tells you what to do but rather it's a form of economic organization where people cooperate to make their lot in life better rather than just seeing everyone as their competitor and therefore mortal enemy. I think you confuse socialism with Dictatorship. They're not the same nor are they mutually exclusive. I suggest reading up a bit about what the terms you use mean before spouting off. Other than that, you missed my argument completely. The military and Congress have a form of..."wait for it"...Socialized Medicine.....keep breathing now, I know it's hard on you, facts are so new and unusual... Both government organizations have this and like it, that was my point.

As for the countries listed.......really that's the best you can do? Eveyone of them have people standing in line to come to America......at well that was the case not as much any more you see these countries have tried the experiment for many many years and contrary to your believe they are not doing so well.....

LOL, that is the best laugh I've had in a year. Everyone of the countries I listed have better and more comprehensive health care than the US does. It also costs them less. I picked them for a reason, but since I could count on you not to check the actual facts, you fell for it hook line and sinker....Yup, there are tons of Swedes, Norwegians and Danes just dying to get to the US and have their quality of life ruined and their life expectancy lowered (before you go off again, look it up for yourself). Did you notice how many of them are standing around your local Home Depot looking for work? Yup the Scandinavian voting block swung heavily in this last election, that is why Obama now must put Swedish Meatballs and Ikea furniture in the White House everywhere... Really, you have got to come up for air at some point and look around. It's no longer 1950 where everyone wants to come to the US. We were truly number one then, now not so much except on Fox News where they happily peddle that myth to anyone who has trouble with facts...

other then Canada, but if you look real close you will see Canada is much less socialist then the others mentioned....they also embraced.....wait for it....... Tax cuts and lower business taxes to STIMULATE GROWTH.......wait what did they get?????? GROWTH!!!!!! What a concept let people decide where to spend THIER MONEY and wham ......the economy does better.....but they have government healthcare....woooo hooooo 8 moths to get a procedure a lack of dr's ( I have to go 80 miles to get a dr. Cause non closer are taking patients) so I go 5 miles to the USA pay cash and get seen today!!!!! Course I can pay cash in Canada also and get seen at a walkin clinic cause the government won't let dr's have a " private practice" and see people.....that would be bad to actually make money on people who need your services......care for me to go on about what your nuervana is going to be bringing you.......

Nope, you can stop now...nothing here to see or learn from. Just a rant from a severely misinformed person. Makes me wonder if everyone in the Fox Noise world knows that same one Canadian that hates their healthcare, because I have family there and I have never met anyone North of our border willing to trade our bs, "let's let em die because there is no profit in it" medical care nightmare for what they get. They pay their taxes and everyone gets affordable quality healthcare. We pay our taxes and we get our military to turn rubble into sand for whatever jingoistic reasons to the tune of $500 billion before it's all said and done. Yup, I see why they would love to trade.

Now the cool thing called AMERICA was actually formed to get away from the socialist mindset that is Europe.....

Oh my that is just precious. The US was actually formed as a reaction to perceived unfair taxation by a KING, socialism would not even be invented for another 100 years or so by a German dude named Karl Marx. See again you confuse Dictatorship with socialism. King George was not a socialist and no one had a socialist mindset back then except for maybe the founding fathers who actually dared to cooperate together for the common good in order to form a more "perfect union".

 

[OHGOON]

Man I sure ramble.....I must be getting old as hell!

Couldn't agree more, time to retire?? Enjoy a little of that hard won socialism of Medicare & Social Security...

You've earned it and the rest of us might breath a little easier to see you take command of that golf cart permanently.

 

[flyzimex]

LOL, that is the best laugh I've had in a year. Everyone of the countries I listed have better and more comprehensive health care than the US does. It also costs them less. I picked them for a reason, but since I could count on you not to check the actual facts, you fell for it hook line and sinker....Yup, there are tons of Swedes, Norwegians and Danes just dying to get to the US and have their quality of life ruined and their life expectancy lowered (before you go off again, look it up for yourself). Did you notice how many of them are standing around your local Home Depot looking for work? Yup the Scandinavian voting block swung heavily in this last election, that is why Obama now must put Swedish Meatballs and Ikea furniture in the White House everywhere... Really, you have got to come up for air at some point and look around. It's no longer 1950 where everyone wants to come to the US. We were truly number one then, now not so much except on Fox News where they happily peddle that myth to anyone who has trouble with facts...

As a Swede who has lived in the US during four separate periods for a total of nine years I have decided to give up on the "American dream" and move back eastward. The sad part is I have what's considered a pretty good job here in the US, which really doesn't say much these days. America is a great country in many ways, however I have just come to the conclusion that my values differ too much for me to lead the life that I want. Despite the "socialistic communist" (not my words) who was just reelected.

I am sure there are guys here who will say they will be happy to see this foreigner (me) get out of here so an American can take my job. In not too long I hope I can make their wish come true. Just remember, this country was built by foreigners like me not too long ago.

This will be my first and last post in this thread as I don't normally engage in political discussions online. No one ever wins.


Happy flying..

 

[clueless]

This is true. There was recently a news story where a Denny's raised their prices 5% ... and itemized the increase on the restaurant check as an ObamaCare surcharge.

Most businesses won't itemize like that and people won't know the consequences of voting for Socialism ... but these customers see ObamaCare costs right on their bill.

It was a single franchisee, who owns multiple Denny's in the southeast. It didn't work out so well for him or for other Denny's owners, who were victims of customer backlash because of one rouge owner's comments.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...ex+(Daily+Kos)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

 

[OHGOON]

Earth to rigger

Where are you?? We miss you so.

 

[OHGOON]

Most businesses won't itemize like that and people won't know the consequences of voting for Socialism ... but these customers see ObamaCare costs right on their bill.

Can you explain why providing decent Healthcare for everyone is socialism but ridiculously bloated government spending on the Pentagon/military is not?

Seems there is socialism everywhere and the US has done quite well despite or even because of it throughout the years, having the "best military" in the world and all.

 

[gunfyter]

Can you explain why providing decent Healthcare for everyone is socialism but ridiculously bloated government spending on the Pentagon/military is not?

Seems there is socialism everywhere and the US has done quite well despite or even because of it throughout the years, having the "best military" in the world and all.

Certainly I can. Providing for the National Defense is Constitutional and the primary purpose of federal government. Providing for healthcare is not.

 

[CE750Driver]

As a Swede who has lived in the US during four separate periods for a total of nine years I have decided to give up on the "American dream" and move back eastward. The sad part is I have what's considered a pretty good job here in the US, which really doesn't say much these days. America is a great country in many ways, however I have just come to the conclusion that my values differ too much for me to lead the life that I want. Despite the "socialistic communist" (not my words) who was just reelected.

I am sure there are guys here who will say they will be happy to see this foreigner (me) get out of here so an American can take my job. In not too long I hope I can make their wish come true. Just remember, this country was built by foreigners like me not too long ago.

This will be my first and last post in this thread as I don't normally engage in political discussions online. No one ever wins.


Happy flying..

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

I have a feeling you will never leave, or crawl back with some excuse.

 

[G4dude]

As a Swede who has lived in the US during four separate periods for a total of nine years I have decided to give up on the "American dream" and move back eastward. The sad part is I have what's considered a pretty good job here in the US, which really doesn't say much these days. America is a great country in many ways, however I have just come to the conclusion that my values differ too much for me to lead the life that I want. Despite the "socialistic communist" (not my words) who was just reelected.

I am sure there are guys here who will say they will be happy to see this foreigner (me) get out of here so an American can take my job. In not too long I hope I can make their wish come true. Just remember, this country was built by foreigners like me not too long ago.

This will be my first and last post in this thread as I don't normally engage in political discussions online. No one ever wins.


Happy flying..

Sweden is a very nice place too. Good luck in your home country, did you find a good job there?