The Big January Bid at SWA for AT

[madjack]

DAL IS hiring

 

[Daddy]

Humvee, why can't you pick them up? Serious question

 

[humveedriver]

DAL IS hiring

Leave one legacy carrier for another? Silly move.

 

[humveedriver]

Humvee, why can't you pick them up? Serious question

The TT in ELITT stands for trip trade. Not trip pick up. But the ELITT screen is chock full of 3 and 4 day trips. For show as far as I can tell. Then when no one trades for them they are put up for open bid (pick up) 4 days out or covered by reserve (not). The trips are usually pieced out bit by bit to avoid premium and allow multiple bases to get a chunk of the 3/4 Day. I guess that makes it more capitalistic, but I don't find it advantageous.

 

[Daddy]

What is it that you want that you cannot trade for?

 

[humveedriver]

Don't want to trade. Want to pick up an occasional weekend trip or 3 day if a have a big stretch of days off. It would be nice to so that 2 weeks out. I'm talking days off to working, not trip for a trip.

 

[scoreboardII]

The TT in ELITT stands for trip trade. Not trip pick up. But the ELITT screen is chock full of 3 and 4 day trips. For show as far as I can tell. Then when no one trades for them they are put up for open bid (pick up) 4 days out or covered by reserve (not). The trips are usually pieced out bit by bit to avoid premium and allow multiple bases to get a chunk of the 3/4 Day. I guess that makes it more capitalistic, but I don't find it advantageous.

In a nutshell, the reason that little tidbit of a restriction is in there is so senior guys can bid on that trip at premium when no one can trade into it.

 

[Daddy]

Don't want to trade. Want to pick up an occasional weekend trip or 3 day if a have a big stretch of days off. It would be nice to so that 2 weeks out. I'm talking days off to working, not trip for a trip.

You can trade a 3day for 2 2days or for a 3day and another 2day or for a 3day and a turn. You can always pick stuff up out of ELITT....the mechanism is through trading. If you have all Sunday 3days and you see a Thursday-Friday 2day that you want, all you have to do is trade for that and another trip and then trade the other trip for your original sunday trip. Is that what you're trying to do? Through trading, you end up with your Sunday trips plus the Thursday Friday 2day...thus, you picked it up from ELITT almost instantaneously with no company involvement.

 

[vixin]

Humber,

There is almost always guys giving stuff away all days of the week. Especially three days or four days. Turns and two days don't last very long though. Why help the company out. Take trips from your fellow pilots wanting to work less if you want it at straight time.

 

[slaquer5]

Humber,

There is almost always guys giving stuff away all days of the week. Especially three days or four days. Turns and two days don't last very long though. Why help the company out. Take trips from your fellow pilots wanting to work less if you want it at straight time.

Very true .

On the SWAPA Fourm there is even a pilot offering money to take his trips



How come Lear is not on FI anymore

 

[shootr]

If you can't pick up straight from Elitt, you're not doing it right. I'll leave that for you to figure out on your own. That's as much help as you're getting from me (competition and all).

 

[canyonblue]

How about one of our Captains that set the record with over 300 TFP last year. He came close last month, but with only 9 days off and the new 117 rules hit 285 TFP. That's $54,000 for the month of June, it only works if you know the game well.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Hummer
If you're trying to pickup on the FO side in ATL or MCO then that currently is a challenge due to the super senior soon to be captains, the fact that Kelly shuttered the base, and the 717s are being sent to DAL.

Pretty much the rest of the bases is a cornucopia of OT for Cappies and FO's, especially in June, July and August.

 

[humveedriver]

Hummer
If you're trying to pickup on the FO side in ATL or MCO then that currently is a challenge due to the super senior soon to be captains, the fact that Kelly shuttered the base, and the 717s are being sent to DAL.

Pretty much the rest of the bases is a cornucopia of OT for Cappies and FO's, especially in June, July and August.

I'm in DAL and I think the prob here is they farm out the flying to HOU. I'm not disputing that I can't get trips or pick up time. I can get the time. I just want to get it well in advance. not SNOT. If I was younger and single the open time system would be a fun game. But I like to make plans and have a life outside of flying.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Scheds farming out the flying is a big problem that will hopefully be fixed in the next contract.

 

[waveflyer]

I'm in DAL and I think the prob here is they farm out the flying to HOU. I'm not disputing that I can't get trips or pick up time. I can get the time. I just want to get it well in advance. not SNOT. If I was younger and single the open time system would be a fun game. But I like to make plans and have a life outside of flying.

God forbid right?


But I think you are missing that there is a way to pick up those trips as soon as elitt opens for straight time.

Several have tried to tell you, keeping their loosely held secret- but we promise, you can do what you want
Just an annoying extra step and maybe ought to be addressed- but it's easy enough

It's easier to just have someone show you than try and explain it here- not hard man

Farming it out to other bases is a whole other issue

 

[humveedriver]

God forbid right?


But I think you are missing that there is a way to pick up those trips as soon as elitt opens for straight time.

Several have tried to tell you, keeping their loosely held secret- but we promise, you can do what you want
Just an annoying extra step and maybe ought to be addressed- but it's easy enough

It's easier to just have someone show you than try and explain it here- not hard man

Farming it out to other bases is a whole other issue

Thanks Wave. I'll play with the trip trading in elitt. As you describe, it's a work around to something that could be much simpler.

 

[waveflyer]

Plus are we forgetting the monthly open time window

Ive never used it

 

[wood pecker]

For every idea that might help a junior person such as right of return, vac block bidding, mini bases there are many more senior pilots that would be harmed so there will never be a change. Reserves owning a trip might change from what I heard vs now where a line holder can take your trip which for me is fine but for those checking out of a hotel is not ok.

 

[Just thinking]

If you want to get that two day trip in addition to your current schedule through the ELITT do the following....... Highlight the three day/four day trip that you want to swap then select the two day and another filler three day to swap. Once you have processed the trade immediately highlight your filler three day and swap back to your original three/ four day that you had and swap back. You have now effectively picked up the two day that you wanted without dealing with dot/snot and whatever acronym they have