The Best Plane for 10M.

[SkyGirl]

I'm just a little airplane pilot, but I've gotten to ride in the blue and white G-IIIs at Andrews AFB. From a passenger's standpoint the Gulfstreams are great! They're roomy, quiet and fast.


_SkyGirl_

 

[some_dude]

Sure, Gramps, anything you say.

There's a very nice corporate DC-3 based near me also. That thing can carry 12 passengers pretty comfortably, don't know about Hawaii though. Of course, he could put in sleeper bunks since the crossing would take about 12 hours if it can do it.

I'd bet that DC-3 will be flying when your 28 year old Sabre 65 is pop cans!

There are plenty of parts, just owned by 2 companies in St louis and they keep the prices fairly high.

I'll bet you $100 our 28 year old Sabre-65 will still be flying long after most of those new CJ's and lear 40 models are scrap metal.

I would bet you it's the best plane and the MOST plane for the buck.

 

[con-pilot]

Now, now, let's be kind about the old Sabre 65. It was a really great airplane for its day and to tell the truth can do a good job today.

However, now they are getting old and break a lot, kind of like me.

Now back to the thread. If the cabin of the Falcon 50 is too mall for your needs I guess you are stuck with a 601. The problem with the G-III is that is a stage 2 aircraft. That could cause you some problems in just a couple of years, not to mention drastically affecting the resale price lower when you sell the G-III.

Good luck on your quest.

 

[Lead Sled]

There are plenty of parts, just owned by 2 companies in St louis and they keep the prices fairly high.

I'll bet you $100 our 28 year old Sabre-65 will still be flying long after most of those new CJ's and lear 40 models are scrap metal.

I would bet you it's the best plane and the MOST plane for the buck.

Wasn't Hawaii in the equation somewhere? I didn't know the Sabre would do Hawaii.

I heard somewhere that a DC-3 would do nearly 23 hours topped off. Hmmm...

LS

 

[SabreFlyR]

Wasn't Hawaii in the equation somewhere? I didn't know the Sabre would do Hawaii.

I heard somewhere that a DC-3 would do nearly 23 hours topped off. Hmmm...

LS

I flew the 65 at one time and no way would I attempt it, but it was a great airplane.

 

[G21Agoose]

Falcon 50. Or GIII.
Sabre? No, thank you.
No, really NO!

 

[G21Agoose]

I'm just a little airplane pilot.

_SkyGirl_

How little? Like freaky little or just a little short?

 

[SkyGirl]

How little? Like freaky little or just a little short?

Little as in little airplane. I have a SkyHawk SP. I'm 5'10" (and a size 4 so no rude big girl comments).



_SkyGirl_

 

[GVFlyer]

...If the cabin of the Falcon 50 is too mall for your needs I guess you are stuck with a 601. The problem with the G-III is that is a stage 2 aircraft. That could cause you some problems in just a couple of years, not to mention drastically affecting the resale price lower when you sell the G-III.

There's a couple of Stage III kits available for the G1159. Here's one.


http://www.stageiii.com/



GV

 

[con-pilot]

There's a couple of Stage III kits available for the G1159. Here's one.


http://www.stageiii.com/



GV

I should know this, but, can one operate a hushed kitted G-III in Europe? I have not seen any over there, however, I do realize that the hushed G-II/III is not that common as yet, so that could be the reason.

 

[mzaharis]

There's a couple of Stage III kits available for the G1159. Here's one.


http://www.stageiii.com/



GV

Here's the other . . .

http://www.qtaerospace.com/

 

[ultrarunner]

I think Stageiii is still a pipe dream, as it's gone through a re-design, and if I recall, the only one flying is the mule. It might be an option, but not for a while.

On the other hand, QTA I think has modified 50 airplanes or so. This would seem your only option right now if you need to hush a G.

As far as EU, I haven't seen anything specifically baring aircraft hushed to meet the requirment, but you never know....a quick call to NBAA will answwer that.

 

[wildbill]

It is my understanding that the Europeans consider an aircraft according to how it came from the factory. The hush kits may not be acceptable. The one thing you have to watch for is the 25 year old aircraft rule. I'm not sure how many European countries are enforcing that yet.

 

[con-pilot]

The one thing you have to watch for is the 25 year old aircraft rule. I'm not sure how many European countries are enforcing that yet.

Yeah, that could be a real ouch, as in 'got ya'!

Of course some people believe that the reason that rule in in force is pure protectionism to force old Boeings out the sky for new Airbuses.

Some people that is, not me.


(In a pigs eye I don't. )

 

[lazyace75]

I flew the 65 at one time and no way would I attempt it, but it was a great airplane.

OUr 65 model did Hawaii on a routine basis with the previous owner....however that's something I don't know if I'd try.

Not to hijack the thread but the 65 is GREAT airplane. We've updated all avionics and it's really hard to beat. Don't get me wrong, I'm not wanting to fly them forever but it's a great pilot's airplane.