The Amazing Kreskin

[Hawkered]

Alright....I'm the Six Million Dollar Man!!

 

[NJACMH]

Well.. thanks for guessing. But you guessed wrong. A formula has been devised by the E Board and IBT for strike pay. How livable is life on strike pay? Well, for many it would provide a pay raise over what they make now by working. The time limit is unlimited for strike pay as well.

Plans are well underway for the pilots of NJA to withstand a lockout. If it happens, it happens.

Glad to hear that because I know the rest of us will still be getting paid!

 

[gunfyter]

Glad to hear that because I know the rest of us will still be getting paid!

So will I. its called contract flying $750 to $1000 a day. How many days do I have to work to pass your pay?

 

[gutshotdraw]

Gunfyter,

Glad you have the contract flying option. Do a bit myself and always enjoy it.

Meanwhile, even if negotiations have resumed, it doesn't mean much will change.

As I posted earlier, the company wants to reset the productivity baseline. As a group, non-union shops are typically more productive than union operations. If the beancounters in Woodbridge are telling the poo-bahs that giving the union what they want would cost X but a strike or lockout would cost X minus, most business types would pick the cheaper option. If the company thinks they can get a deal where column A and column B are roughly equal, they would rather keep the existing pilot group in order to minimize shareholder defections. Problem is, 6 S is the stated goal and the number in Column A is currently WAY too high for the company to swallow.

I'm sticking with my prediction that any current negotiations are for show and when the company asks NMB for a mediator, the end game clock will have started ticking.

 

[gunfyter]

your prediction is possible. Either way ... lets get it over with. Its better for everybody.

 

[Hawkered]

Gunfyter

Excellent post...yes!

Let's get over it and move on!!

Come to terms with our own egos, stop hurting the innocent bystanders in all of this, namely the poor owners who have to put up with this whole BS, forgive us our own sins in this fiasco and....

Git 'r Done!!

 

[ultrarunner]

All this to avoid paying standard NBBA pilot salaries

Does NBAA actually benchmark the fractional salaries?

That's the measure, isn't it? Or does the pilot group simply thow themselves in the "corporate column"?

 

[gunfyter]

If you want to benchmark fractionals all you have to do is look at our sister companies. NJE and NJI.

 

[ultrarunner]

If you want to benchmark fractionals all you have to do is look at our sister companies. NJE and NJI.

Any compenstation specialist/salary benchmark company would look at all the Fracs to determine the salary that is supported by that industry.

It's unreasonable to think that a frac postion should be benchmarked against a non frac company.

You benchmark against your own industry. That's the whole point of it.

So, back to my original question:

How do the salaries at NJ benchmark against the Frac industry?

 

[gunfyter]

I don't care about your question.

we ARE the frac industry. When we move so will all the others.

Now go away and bother people on the majors board. Where you are rooting against the NWA mechanics.