The air industry's worst nightmare

[RightPedal]

You are right, there really isn't much we can do to prevent this, but saying "it isn't likely" to happen is simply denying the inevitable...
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It is inevitable, and every able body american should arm themselves and prepair to protect this great land from anyone who has the intent to distroy it!
This could be simple propaganda but these people are breeding fear into our lives with things like this.
I'm not implying that we all become cowboy vigilantes but we can't just set on our duff and watch this thing go down. This is a Holy War! and like Stormin Norman said, GOD has the authority to forgive them..We have the responsibility to arange the meeting!

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL WHO STAND BESIDE HER

 

[tothelineplz]

Come on...anything you all know the enemy knows, and has known for a long time. That is assuming you haven't signed a non-disclosure statement with the government if you worked with sensitive information either as a contractor or active duty member of the military. Y'all act like you have some big secret of significant intelligence value. Maybe you do. In that case, it is your responsibility to keep it to yourself. Otherwise, we all have freedom of speech. This business of people telling others on this board and/or posts being deleted because someone doesn't like or agree with their idea(s) is a precise goal of the terrorists. Heck, the government wants us to spy on our neighbors and report "anything suspicious," the FBI wants to give elected members of congress lie detector tests, the Patriot Act allows the government to spy on our home and business computers, folks are afraid to say anything regarding existing security weaknesses, etc. Why don't we all curl up in a corner and be afraid...very afraid. PHUQ that bullship. America must respond to this attack on our soil with a "measured and timely" response to this aggression. Who cares if we are viewed as Imperialists by citizens and governments in the Middle East. Better than being labeled defeated. Tactical nuclear weapons (nobody takes THAT much care of a real bomb for those who have never seen one up close and personal - you could shave in one) must be considered as a possible solution. After all...the last time we were attacked on our soil we used a much much bigger version of a peacekeeper and world order was re-established and has been maintained ever since. Get over your bad selves. Our entire civilization is in jeopardy...the sooner everyone gets pizzed about that the stronger we will collectively be as a nation. But that's just my opinion. How many thousands of reasons do we have to kick the living daylights out of the radiator heads?

 

[SaabStory]

Oh yea,
God (pick one) & religion...that will solve it.

 

[JCJ]

here's a real threat

I kinda liked the scene in the Bruce Willis movie (Diehard?) where the departing 747 full of bad guys and trailing a stream of fuel from a bullet hole was departing, but Bruce saved the day by igniting the trail of fuel which burned all the way up to the departing 747 and blew it up. of course that was good since the 747 was full of bad guys that needed to be blown up

 

[V-1]

I hadn't seen that movie yet! Why'd you have to spoil it for me?

Now that I think about it, that has to be one of the most ridiculous things to come from Hollywood yet.

I'm pleased to see my decision to stop watching action movies since being insulted by that no-story movie "Speed" has once again been validated.

Throw in some explosions and special effects...there's no need for a well-written story.

 

[bigD]

No no no...you guys have it all wrong. Bruce Willis was fighting some bad guy on the wing while the 747 was taxiing. During the fight the bad guy was thrown off the front of the wing, and sucked into one of the engines (which apparently didn't do any real damage as the takeoff was continued later). So ANOTHER bad guy comes out onto the wing, and gives Bruce a better fight. This time Bruce falls off the front of the wing, but he manages to grab hold of an engine pylon. As he's hanging onto the pylon, he notices a valve/handle that's labeled, "Emergency Fuel Dump" or something like that. So he lets go of the pylon, and as he flies backwards under the wing, he grabs the handle, and large amounts of fuel begin to gush out.

As he's watching the plane taxi away and eventually begin to take off, he says, "Yippee kai ayeeee motherf*cker..." and lights the fuel - and the rest is history.

What's so unbelievable about that!? I thought it was an exceptional Hollywood moment!

 

[JCJ]

oh yeah i remember now

of course i'm a non-smoker - so if i am ever in a similar situation i guess i'll be unprepared to save the day as i won't have a cigarette lighter handy (sigh)

 

[sanford&son]

here now!

at three a.m., about nine months ago, i was awakened by the swat team in my yard executing a drug bust against middle eastern origin resident aliens. aside from the two kilos of smack found on scene, there were numerous un-registered fully automatic weapons and at least one stinger missle. without giving out my address, this happened in florida, and received virtually no national press. the home and a near-by import business were siezed and are currently slated to be sold at auction.

our borders are not safe.

anybody can bring anything they want in here if they are creative.

while i agree that talkind about it won't help any of us when the time comes, it is going to happen. like they all say, it's just a question of when.

-L

 

[KC-10 Driver]

It has happened, albeit not in the U.S.

Today, an Israeli airliner had a missile fired at it shortly after takeoff from Mombasa, Kenya. The missile missed, and the aircraft continued safely to Tel Aviv.

They were very lucky.

 

[V-1]

Seems like everytime I hear a report about these portable anti-aircraft missiles being fired, the outcome is the missile missed it's target.

Doesn't seem these things are terribly accurate, although I suppose there are a few lucky shots made. No one even noticed when one of these were fired at one of our military aircraft in Saudi Arabia a few months back...until a routine patrol found the empty launcher discarded outside the base.

Junk equipment, operated by poor marksmen, against a target it would have questionable effectiveness against. I doubt an airliner is as vulnerable when damaged as a helicopter is. An airplane's wing doesn't rotate. My unenlightened opinion only.

 

[banned username 2]

Hey ShawnC....


Such a far-fetched theory now???

Isreali Jetliner hit by missle during Take-Off

 

[ceo_of_the_sofa]

Israeli Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said: "If it was indeed missiles shot against civilian aviation this is a very dangerous escalation of terror.....Today they fired missiles at Israeli planes, tomorrow they'll fire missiles at U.S. planes, British planes, planes from every state."

 

[avbug]

Going back to the original title of the thread...our worst nightmare...Pamela Anderson marries Bill Clinton, and the offspring becomes FAA Administrator.

Second worse nightmare...Pamela Anderson becomes FAA administrator.

Of course, when everybody wakes up and realizes that missle attacks have already occured here...successfully...then we'll be getting somewhere.

TWA 800 may have been covered up in the interest of protecting the public fears, but it doesn't change the facts.

I'm aware that will wrinkle a lot of noses from those with their heads buried in the sand, but again, it doesn't change the facts. It doesn't change the fact that missles were known to enter this country, and that it hasn't all been covered.

We've been through it before on this site...lots of experts on the subject, all denying the same facts. It happened. Just prior to it happening, a launch occured in the same spot. Shortly before that, a French Mistral was located in New Jersey (If I recall correctly).

Lets hear the flames begin...but again, it won't change the facts. Your worst fears have been here for a long time now. There is nothing new under the sun.

 

[JCJ]

wonder if it was an honest-to-goodnes shoulder-fired sam or something lesser like an unguided rpg or something similar?

 

[EagleRJ]

It would be extraordinarily difficult to hit an aircraft with an unguided rocket like an RPG-7 or LAAW, even if you were standing on the departure end of the runway. They are meant to engage lightly armored or unarmored targets from less than 500 yards away horizontally. The rocket motor only burns for a split second, so the rocket is at full velocity when it leaves the tube and won't subject the operator to backblast. If you fired one vertically, you would set your legs on fire, and the rocket would probably only coast up to a thousand feet or so before turning around and falling back toward you!

All of the missile engagements against airliners over the past few years here and abroad are consistant with MANPADS (Man Portable Air Defence Systems)