Thanks Again ALPA

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The joke that is ALPA. When there is a Union drive at stake...you're all "brothers"

When things go south, you're on your own. LOVE IT!

Are suggesting that 52,000 individual contractors would be more unified and do better when things go south.....??

 

[CopilotDoug]

Are suggesting that 52,000 individual contractors would be more unified and do better when things go south.....??

How many other pilot groups took job actions to protest the treatment of UAL's pilot group on their latest trip through bankruptcy court? Is that the Unity you're referring to?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

How many other pilot groups took job actions to protest the treatment of UAL's pilot group on their latest trip through bankruptcy court? Is that the Unity you're referring to?

No...

 

[PCL_128]

How many other pilot groups took job actions to protest the treatment of UAL's pilot group on their latest trip through bankruptcy court? Is that the Unity you're referring to?

Yes, that would have made a lot of sense. Let's send several airlines into Chapter 7 just so you can feel better. The immediate result would have been new draconian laws that make us indentured servants that can't even strike after a cooling off period. Yeah, great idea.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Yes, that would have made a lot of sense. Let's send several airlines into Chapter 7 just so you can feel better. The immediate result would have been new draconian laws that make us indentured servants that can't even strike after a cooling off period. Yeah, great idea.

you're already an indentured servant and you don't even know it...

 

[PCL_128]

you're already an indentured servant and you don't even know it...

You must have missed the air line pilot strikes that have taken place under the RLA.

 

[CopilotDoug]

You must have missed the air line pilot strikes that have taken place under the RLA.

When was the last one...Comair? How quickly did management come back and take those gains?

 

[TWA Dude]

RLA strike history:
http://www.nmb.gov/publicinfo/airline-strikes.html

 

[eaglesview]

You must have missed the air line pilot strikes that have taken place under the RLA.

Which ones are you referring to. ALPA has had their a$$ kicked consistently since the 80's. Welcome aboard you people (tranny folks) are living in a fantasy land with this ALPA thing.

 

[Flopgut]

If you could explain to me how this is possible, and/or how the action hasn't been contested by the pilot group...I would really appreciate.

Paul Whiteford bravely saved the A fund by selling out scope. Of course, he didn't really save anything. Now he's picking up time saving UAL.

Prater sucked up strike pay like a fat tick. If you fly with guys like him all you hear about the entire time is how wrong it was that guys crossed the picket line. According to him, it was wrong when guys occupied his seat outside the CBA. Of course, when he did no less than the same with 65 it's OK.

The whole problem is generational. Prater and his entire generation are scumbags.

 

[DA-20]

ALPA is an association not a union.... Might as well have voted in AOPA.
Gemini Guys got a free subscription to AIR INC, that silly magazine and told to pay their dues or they would be in bad standing! F#@$ing Joke

 

[AC560]

The answer is so obvious I can't believe anyone hasn't come up with it.

The unions should buy the airline and then run it, surely that would create the best management team UA has ever seen.....

 

[Flopgut]

If John Prater were among one of these latest UAL furloughs, he would chain himself to the employee bus, have his wife and kids in front of cameras weeping, and be the biggest spectacle you could possibly imagine. As it is, he could care less.

 

[Colonel Savage]

RLA strike history:
http://www.nmb.gov/publicinfo/airline-strikes.html

Then, 15 ALPA strikes at a "Legacies" in 31 years of a Regulated Industry with improving contracts for pilots.

Now, 4 ALPA strikes at "Legacies" in 31 years of of a Deregulated Industry with ONE in the past 12 years and NONE since 9/11, with contracts gutted.

Both periods under the RLA.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." Alexander Hamilton, 1798

 

[airlinepilot]

How far back (DOH) have they gone?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Then, 15 ALPA strikes at a "Legacies" in 31 years of a Regulated Industry with improving contracts for pilots.

Now, 4 ALPA strikes at "Legacies" in 31 years of of a Deregulated Industry with ONE in the past 12 years and NONE since 9/11, with contracts gutted.

Both periods under the RLA.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." Alexander Hamilton, 1798

Isn't de-regulation a b!tch!

Love that free market!!! There is nothing free about it...

 

[PCL_128]

Which ones are you referring to. ALPA has had their a$$ kicked consistently since the 80's.

Yeah, those record-shattering contracts at NWA, AAA, UAL, and DAL in the late-'90s and early-'00s were a real ass-kicking.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Isn't de-regulation a b!tch!

Love that free market!!! There is nothing free about it...

right after Teddy Kennedy gladly took the money and votes of airline pilots, he turned around and pulled the carpet right out from under their feet.

People wouldn't trust pilots when it comes to financial matters...why would they trust them on political matters?

 

[CopilotDoug]

Yeah, those record-shattering contracts at NWA, AAA, UAL, and DAL in the late-'90s and early-'00s were a real ass-kicking.

Yes...please tell us how those very contracts are doing today.

 

[PCL_128]

Yes...please tell us how those very contracts are doing today.

You think any union can protect you when liquidation in bankruptcy is eminent? Keep dreaming. As Rez always tells you, your expectations are never realistic. Learn to work within the system and you can advance this profession back to what it used to be. Your crazy ideas about illegal work stoppages will lead nowhere.