Timebuilder said:
I will, however, set you straight.
I have no problem with your support for George, but the idea that you are setting anyone straight is at best an oxymoron.
The Florida court had been cautioned by the Supremes to not try and "cherry pick" certain counties for recounts. These counties were seen as being likely places where the Florida democrats could maneuver the recount to fit their agenda. The Supremes said no, this wasn't within the scope of their judicial mandate, and the election stood, as finished.
There was a problem, in the view of the US Supreme Court, with a recount by "selected counties." However, that was not an error of the Florida Supreme Court, it was an error on the part of legal counsel for Gore. The Florida court did not come up with the "cherry pick" concept. It was the lawyer's idea to request a recount limited to specific counties as opposed to state wide, not the Florida courts. You can state the facts without attempts to mislead.
So, this idea tha the Supreme Court "placed" Bush in office is whimsical democrat storytelling, or as the rest of us know it, a LIE.
Again you "spin" events to suit your side of the storytelling. If the Supreme Court was interested in a fair procedure for recounting the Florida votes, it could easily have ordered a state-wide recount which it said would be legitimate. Instead it voted five to four to decide the election, thus depriving the people of their franchise and forever casting a shadow on the legitimacy of the election and the current President. That reality does not change regardless of whether you supported Bush or Gore.
Additionally, other courts in Florida, headed by judges of Republican persuasion, allowed the counting of thousands of absentee ballots that did not comply with Florida election law. Had those illegal votes been outcast, the election may have had a different outcome. We don't know.
Like it or not, the truth is that the "people of Florida" did not elect George Bush. The courts, the head of the state's electoral commission, the governor and the state police, more than did their part to ensure who would emerge the victor in a very close election.
It is of course merely a coincidence that all of those entities happen to be dominated or controlled by the current president's political party. (You see, I can spin doctor too.)
Back to the thread topic, Nader just made a speech at the National Press Club. He used all of the expected keywords, such as "big business", "worker", "corporate", "private financing", and a whole laundry list of other words that are part and parcel to any good socialist call-to-arms.
God bless this man.
Based on past experience with your rhetoric, I know that if I had said the equivalent with respect to the mantra of neoconservatism and GWB's right-wing club, at this point you would be calling me a "hate-America- first, left-wing liberal extremist and questioning my patriotism.
What should I call you?