Terrorists Almost strike Again.

[brainhurts]

You should check the thread about the JB Pakastani. There are folks trying to convince non radical Muslims to step up to the plate and stop this mess. The answer from some of our muslim pilots seems to be "we can't do anything so stop being mean to me"

 

[SlapShot]

I am so glad the FAA requires commercial airline pilots to have a 10 year background check before we can sit in front of the bulletproof door next to a crash axe. However our background check is not good enough for me to carry my own shampoo, hair gel, or toothpaste.

I tolerated having to take my shoes off (even though I knew they do not contain any metal) before going through the metal detector just after 9/11. I put up with taking my laptop out. But this latest stupid change is where I draw the line. I understand why the change was brought about but why do the people that work the flights have to be subject to teh same restrictions as the traveling public?

What the TSA seems to admit to me is that the people that run the security checkpoints now are no better then the minimum wage workers that did it on 9/11. So our tax dollars are now paying someone $40,000 a year to do just as bad a job.

Once again the government has a knee jerk reaction to something that happens somewhere in the world.

 

[blzr]

On the news rivght now, the info-babe just said that the terrorists were caught by the same means that are so controvertial over here. What would those methods be?? Wire tapping, Profiling?

And, I love the Ideas posted before about using theis organs.

 

[uba757]

Simple solution, Make them use what ever items the explosives were in. The guy with the tooth paste must brush his stinking, spoiled, corroded teeth with it. The lotion guy must use it on his smelly, non-deodorant sweating like a waterfall A$$. The gel guy has to put it on his FU##ING greasy, unwashed, smelly head. And down the road we go. UBA757

 

[ACWild]

On the news rivght now, the info-babe just said that the terrorists were caught by the same means that are so controvertial over here. What would those methods be?? Wire tapping, Profiling?

And, I love the Ideas posted before about using theis organs.

I just sent a letter to Bush at Congress.org regarding my proposed solution. This will keep the liberals busy for a while.:laugh:

 

[maru657]

Red Alert, Red alert, Must be coming up on elections again.

 

[blzr]

Red Alert, Red alert, Must be coming up on elections again.

That's exactly how Hillary and Kerry will play this off. "Bush is just trying to get people scared again."

Please tell me this in't what you believe, cuz if it is, you have no biusness operating heavy machinery.

 

[JP4user]

The answer from some of our muslim pilots seems to be "we can't do anything so stop being mean to me"

Which really means: "We give our tactic and unspoken approval to our muslim brothers to kill, maim and destroy anyone that does not agree and live by our terms"

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

I do not think that is weird. I bring a gallon of lotion with me. Its usuailly gone after a 3 day.

Holy Crap! A gallon?! So you're the guy whose dried lotion I have to waste 3 alcohol wipes on to clean the side-stick.

 

[michael707767]

Why are we arresting these scumbags? Waste money on circus trials and publicity. They all need to be taken out and quietly made to disappear from the face of the earth.

exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Cactus-Wrench]

Dude, do you realize how weird you sound? Do you seriously bring a gallon of ice tea and ranch dressing in your luggage on your commutes?

Dude, yes I do bring a gallon of ice tea, a small container of ranch dressing, along with a loaf of bread, pound of lunch meat, gallon of water, couple chicken breasts, a hamburger or two, carrots, chips, cereal, quart of milk, and a few other things not to mention 4 days of uniforms. I commute from Florida to Texas, and have no wheels in Texas, stay in a hotel 3 days a week there. Being an aircraft mechanic, I am forced to do this or have 3 squares a day in the hotel, which I can't really afford after hotel and commute expenses.
My wife is a flight attendant, so hence why I asked about checking your luggage every leg, she can't afford to have every meal in an airport cholesterol shack, so we bring a lot of our own food, which includes water, ice tea, milk, and soap, lotion, shampoo and conditioner, since she is hyper allergenic to the hotel so called shampoos. Lots of CREWS buy food at airport fast food joints, but even more crews bring their own stuff from home, so I'm dying to know what this new snafu is going to do for airline employees.

 

[SkiFishFly]

Not a bad idea. But they do have rights. They have the right to die a slow painful and agonizing death. I was elated hearing the news that Zarqawi survived the airstrike long enough to realize who killed him. I was also happy about the suffering he endured as he bled to death internally.

I heard they offered him a HAM sandwich - didn't want him to die hungry...

 

[720persecond]

God bless the British Intelligence. Replace it with FBI, and Bubble Boy Prairie Chapel Ranch boy would be again looking in the empty, in front of a classroom

 

[Pat Fabin]

Man, I thought I'd be the first with the lotion joke. Damn.

I feel slightly miffed that Delta wasn't targeted....all our European expansion and we can't even get someone trying to take us out.

Just kidding, of course.

I'm pretty impressed with the Brits, however...they've foiled some pretty big plots over the years.

-PF

 

[Indy refugee]

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual events from history. They actually happened! Do you remember?


1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40



2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40




7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



9. In 1993 the WorldTradeCenter was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40




10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The LutheranChurch
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40




13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



Nope, .I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

You chose your questions well. Here's a couple you missed.


Who bombed a federal office building in Oklahoma, killing men, women and children in a day care center?

1) Muslim extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.
2) Japanese veterans still angry over WWII.
3) Royal Canadian Mounted Police
4) White American veteran of Irish decent

Who bombed an abortion clinic killing women and children?

1) Muslim extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
2) Osama bin Laden
3) Hasidic Jews posing as pregnant teenagers
4) White christian extremists

Who killed about a dozen people using a sniper rifle in the DC area?

1) Muslim extremists between the ages of 17 and 40
2) Billy the Kid
3) Wyatt Erp and Doc Holliday
4) Black US military veteran and young teenager

Who contaminated several bottles of Tylenol?
Who attempted to bomb the Olympics in Atlanta?
Who was responsible for countless acts of terrorism is the UK and Ireland?
Who killed JFK? A former US Marine
Who shot Ronald Reagan?
Who shot at Gerald Ford? A middle aged woman


Maybe your pattern is a little harder to detect now.

Not only do terrorist come in many varieties, but as soon as you decide a certain group, say old white males, the terrorist will immediately seize on that opportunity to recruit them for their operations.

 

[stonewall]

Red Alert, Red alert, Must be coming up on elections again.

Dammit, Maru, you're right!! This was a golden opportunity for the Democrats. Bush and co. cut a secret deal with AQ to blow up planes enroute to the US, then sold them out to MI5, thereby creating a PR coup for the Anglosphere.

If only MI5 would've botched the job, several airliners would've been blown up, killing hundreds. We could've laid the blame at the feet of the Bush Administration and helped get more progressives elected to the House and Senate. Sure several hundred Americans and Brits would've been murdered, but it would've been worth it to get the GOP out of power. Just think about how we could've hammered Bush with this for years! Egad! What a lost opportunity.

Jerk.

 

[Fox-Tree]

I do not think that is weird. I bring a gallon of lotion with me. Its usuailly gone after a 3 day.

Well, if the person that uses a gallon of lotion in 3 days doesn't think it's weird, then I guess you're okay. :laugh:

A gallon???? very dry chick, obsessed metro-sexual dude or a guy who seriously needs a girlfriend........ which one is it?

Maybe you could get the folks on your crew to donate the little bottles from their hotel rooms - obviously just the ones from YOUR room wouldn't be enough.

 

[stonewall]

Indy refugee, in every one of your examples save one the perpetrator of the violence was a single individual, with maybe an accomplice or two. If you can't see the difference between those acts and the acts committed by worldwide, well funded, and organized terror organizations hellbent on destroying Western civilization and establishing an Islamic Caliphate throughout the globe, then you are not being honest with yourself.

Stop being so PC and pull your head out of the sand. They'll kill you, too, and your efforts to draw moral equivalency between them and a few disgruntled individuals won't impress them. Or stop them.

 

[720persecond]

[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Three U.S. soldiers were killed in combat Wednesday in Iraq's restive Anbar province, west of Baghdad, the military said. The soldiers assigned to 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division ``died from enemy action,'' the military said in a statement. It gave no other details. [/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The deaths raised to at least 2,595 the number of U.S. troops who have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. [/FONT]
This is more important to me than all the red alert crap put out by our government.
Our boys and girls are still "securing" Iraq, while the Brits are getting it right, and keeping everybody safe.

 

[uba757]

Hey INDY that sniper in DC was a FU##ING BLACK MUSLIM AGE 17 TO 40.

 

[FatesPawn]

Dude, yes I do bring a gallon of ice tea, a small container of ranch dressing, along with a loaf of bread, pound of lunch meat, gallon of water, couple chicken breasts, a hamburger or two, carrots, chips, cereal, quart of milk, and a few other things not to mention 4 days of uniforms.

I got this far before I read your name Wrench-dude. I almost died laughing! I was picturing the guy in the cockpit next to me trying to warm his hamburger with his map light.

-Fate

BTW - if you offer to change the oil on one of those ultra-cheap DAL captains' 1975 oldsmobuick commutter cars, I bet he'll let your borrow his ride to go to the grocery store

 

[dbrownie]

Hey INDY that sniper in DC was a FU##ING BLACK MUSLIM AGE 17 TO 40.

Don't confuse him with facts.

Dave B

 

[MJPilot]

I guess there will be more traveller switching to the fractionals, charter, AND the new baby jet taxi companies getting their business up and going as we speak.

 

[Indy refugee]

Hey INDY that sniper in DC was a FU##ING BLACK MUSLIM AGE 17 TO 40.

How could you tell?? Did he wear traditional muslim garb? Did he face east every hour?

Guys, I'm as anti-PC as any of you. But, I also see the need to have a comprehensive security program. This means screening everyone. Lowering the screening based on some preconceived bias (ie prejudice, not the bad 1960s kind) will only allow a method for the bad guys to circumvent our security. IOW, look they don't check woman like they do men, well then give the device to your wife. How about the American Taliban? Would you have given him a pass at the checkpoint? He was a young white man from a relatively affluent American family. But his friends were Al Qaeda. Oh yeah, he was a muslim. We could have gotten him when he turned towards Mecca.

 

[blzr]

[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Three U.S. soldiers were killed in combat Wednesday in Iraq's restive Anbar province, west of Baghdad, the military said. The soldiers assigned to 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division ``died from enemy action,'' the military said in a statement. It gave no other details. [/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The deaths raised to at least 2,595 the number of U.S. troops who have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. [/FONT]
This is more important to me than all the red alert crap put out by our government.
Our boys and girls are still "securing" Iraq, while the Brits are getting it right, and keeping everybody safe.

While the Brits are keeping everyone safe? Sure, they did a great job today, but our guys in Iraq are keeping the would be terrorists mainly over there..

2595 hero's. I believe we have gotten 1 or 2 of the bad guys too.

 

[blzr]

How could you tell?? Did he wear traditional muslim garb? Did he face east every hour?

Guys, I'm as anti-PC as any of you. But, I also see the need to have a comprehensive security program. This means screening everyone. Lowering the screening based on some preconceived bias (ie prejudice, not the bad 1960s kind) will only allow a method for the bad guys to circumvent our security. IOW, look they don't check woman like they do men, well then give the device to your wife. How about the American Taliban? Would you have given him a pass at the checkpoint? He was a young white man from a relatively affluent American family. But his friends were Al Qaeda. Oh yeah, he was a muslim. We could have gotten him when he turned towards Mecca.

His last name was MOO-HAMED. Don't know many infidels with that last name.

 

[Indy refugee]

Indy refugee, in every one of your examples save one the perpetrator of the violence was a single individual, with maybe an accomplice or two. If you can't see the difference between those acts and the acts committed by worldwide, well funded, and organized terror organizations hellbent on destroying Western civilization and establishing an Islamic Caliphate throughout the globe, then you are not being honest with yourself.

Stop being so PC and pull your head out of the sand. They'll kill you, too, and your efforts to draw moral equivalency between them and a few disgruntled individuals won't impress them. Or stop them.

So if it's only one guy, it's ok to kill hundreds of people????

It's not about being PC. It's about being safe. Would it have mattered to you if your family was in the WTC vs. the Murrah building??? Would that have been any different? Does it matter if one nut with a rifle shoots you or a religious extremist with a bomb blows up your airplane? or abortion clinic? Are you any less dead?

 

[Indy refugee]

His last name was MOO-HAMED. Don't know many infidels with that last name.

We knew that how??? It seems if we knew is name, we should have been able to find him quicker, Muslim or not?

The point is, we are talking about profiling, right. Well, I live near DC, and I can tell you, there are a lot of guys that 'look like' John Allen Muhammed.

His partners name was Malvo. Is that a mulim name??

 

[C-21Pilot]

Does anyone know the demographics of the people arrested?

I can probably guess, but haven't seen any mention in the media.


C-21

 

[blzr]

So if it's only one guy, it's ok to kill hundreds of people????

It's not about being PC. It's about being safe. Would it have mattered to you if your family was in the WTC vs. the Murrah building??? Would that have been any different? Does it matter if one nut with a rifle shoots you or a religious extremist with a bomb blows up your airplane? or abortion clinic? Are you any less dead?

Organized, ingrained hatred of everyone that believes differently than they do vs. one or two deranged misguided and just plain looney individuals.

The first is strictly religous, and the others are basically personal vindettas.