Taking the high road - SWATRAN debate

[waveflyer]

Dogmatic? Interesting. Alright, ill reserve any specifics- but still say its easy to downplay anyone's thoughts when you disagree. 'Davidian' though? Really?
Creepy was funny though- sorry for the gay visual C! My bad!

Just a little bit longer wait.

 

[Crash Pad]

Wow you guys suck.

"Hey look more free options"

"Yeah but is it really a good deal? I mean the price is zero and the options are greater but I still feel screwed"

 

[kwick]

Please. You have an ALPA leader posting on this board w/ a signature telling Swapa to 'go f^ck themselves'-arguing to be above CJ- sorry I don't appreciate that.:-/

If your family lives in lbb, then the appropriate last words are "thank you"

if somebody was trying to steal your job or undervalue the years of service that you invested in the company, it's all one now. you
might feel the same way.

If a Legacy carrier bought SW do you think that it would be fair if the larger airline tried to staple you or give you less than DOH?

You'd be in the "Arbitation Line" in a heartbeat.

AA or DL would try to put all the SW 737 guys below the bigger airplanes
You'd be crying for DOH or Relative Seniority. And you wouldn't
accept anything less than fair.

 

[madjack]

Kwick,

Why don't you get it? Even Lear70 has stated it...the SWA Pilots should not be penalized because of this acquisition. But as Lear said there is NO WAY SWA pilots can receive all the gains that the AAI pilots are receiving. How is that stealing your job?? The SWA pilots would just like to share in the gains...

 

[madjack]

Kwick,

You know as well as I do that straight DOH would hurt the SWA pilots more than the AAI pilots...you are a much younger group who brings few retirements to the list...why is it fair and equitable that the AAI pilots win so much while the SWA pilots don't "lose anything"

 

[ASADFW7]

The time for discussion is on hold till the proposal either comes out or not to the memberships and vote. The reasoning behind this is that it won't be theory any more it will be a hard document and all the posturing to get to this place will rub someone the wrong way and be truly insensitive. Please let's wait till it comes out, then silently discuss, the reality of the discussion of apples to oranges to apples and back is behind us.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Lighten up, we both have our "garden spots". As I said earlier, this is good news, especially for those that live in each other's cities and can best take advantage of the waived fees.

Sorry for making post(s) that elicited negative responses and turned this thread, it was not my intent.

 

[texman]

Almost every pilot who focused on swa as a goal, did so prioritizing a better company, people, culture, money, and schedule over exotic locations. I gave up a legacy, and so did many pilots here. There are regionals with a lot more vacation and international spots than AT- so please stop that particular one. You sound like GL.

What's interesting is it looks like we'll get all the spots too.
I'm looking forward to it, but a great company is always better.

This is one of the reason's why the carbi is not so interesting to us. Most of us have been around the world many times over. All I want is AT to bring good customer service.

 

[texman]

Kwick,

You know as well as I do that straight DOH would hurt the SWA pilots more than the AAI pilots...you are a much younger group who brings few retirements to the list...why is it fair and equitable that the AAI pilots win so much while the SWA pilots don't "lose anything"

This is the concern of all SWA pilots. We have AT's list and you look at the numbers, DOH won't work. If DOH happens, AT will be the top 35% of the list in 11 years and ride the wave for 20-23 years. The company we built but others get to be on top? Not fair.

 

[ASADFW7]

Seriously, there is no need to talk sli specifics, there is a proposal on the table that is being considered.

 

[ILUVURBANMYERS]

Senior check airman from Dallas on van last night. Total in loop kinda guy. (former Chief pilot and good dude) Said the company was confident that an agreement was going to be hammered out over the weekend and to remain calm.

 

[texman]

Seriously, there is no need to talk sli specifics, there is a proposal on the table that is being considered.

Sorry, not my intent. AT guys know. They see the numbers too. No sli talks here. I have stated I want fair too, yes I know FI is not the place. The AT guys will not be on the streets nor get a raw deal. I just hope the deal is equal and fair to all.

 

[carl p]

Sorry, not my intent. AT guys know. They see the numbers too. No sli talks here. I have stated I want fair too, yes I know FI is not the place. The AT guys will not be on the streets nor get a raw deal. I just hope the deal is equal and fair to all.

Agreed...

 

[Fly4$]

At least you'll have a Gazzilion flights aday to get to LBB, can one of the air tran guys please post your carribean "international" schedule once and for all!

The entire airtran schedule in pdf format is posted somewhere on the public Airtran website.

 

[PCL_128]

w/ a signature telling Swapa to 'go f^ck themselves'-arguing to be above CJ- sorry I don't appreciate that.:-/

Um, yeah, "stay classy" doesn't mean "go f*&^ yourself." Nice try, though.

 

[ATLplt]

The company we built but others get to be on top? Not fair.

There are two companies coming together here. I suppose we don't deserve credit for anything we've "built"? Something will come out of these negotiations...hopefully something we can both agree on.

 

[texman]

There are two companies coming together here. I suppose we don't deserve credit for anything we've "built"? Something will come out of these negotiations...hopefully something we can both agree on.

I don't know your story or your tenure at AT. I respect of all the 35,000 employees that have built this company over the past 40 years (including pilots). So to be on top of the mountain by default because you got bought is wrong. Ask any 10-30 year employee of SWA. I believe you do deserve credit of building up ATL and some Caribbean markets. We thank you for that. Unfortunately your CEO and shareholders realized that you couldn't sustained long term growth or compete in this market. I value the job security I have. The job security comes from the sacrifices the SWA people have made over the past 40 years. When you have a passionate work force like SWA in all departments, you create a culture that is earned and built upon each other. But if a person is going to come busting down the door making demands that would harm SWA, this could be the down fall of SWA. GK is smarter than that. We will agree on what is fair.

 

[waveflyer]

Um, yeah, "stay classy" doesn't mean "go f*&^ yourself." Nice try, though.

And we've all seen the movie, so nice try yourself.

 

[PCL_128]

And we've all seen the movie, so nice try yourself.

You might try watching for comprehension next time.

But, just so you can stop feigning outrage, I've removed it for you. Happy now?

 

[madjack]

Its a step in the right direction