T/O briefing

[ackattacker]

SALT = Same As Last Time

 

[Guitar rocker]

My favorite was, "Just sit there and clap your hands so that I know you aren't touching anything".

He was mean.

And you found yourself as being nothing more than just a switch bitch.

I flew with one old dude and he didnt like yah touching anything below 3000' (he was barely OK with yah touching it above that). Once you was below there, you found yourself having another set of hands on the controls trying to keep you straight. It was interesting having two of us giving it the hand job. Once we were lined up on 1R in LAS with a nice wind out of the northwest. He had a different idea than I did for a crosswind landing...so instead of your basic 10-15 kts of X-wnd, with him fighting against me it was like automatically adding another 15 kts across the runway not to mention that we were fighting over the rudder too. I thought it was me and didnt know what to think.....talked with other dudes, and found out that everyone else was getting free dual whether they liked it or not.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Well, back on topic....the brief should be aircraft specific. For example, most newer aircraft inhibit nuisance warnings while older aircaft do not. So if I'm in a newer aircraft I "abort for any abnormalities prior to V1". If I'm in an older aircraft I "abort for anything prior to 80 kts, after 80 kts will abort for engine fire, failure, loss of directional control, TR deploy or red light."

As with everything else in aviation, tailor your brief to your situation, don't use just one brief for all occasions.

 

[skiandsurf]

Well, back on topic....the brief should be aircraft specific. For example, most newer aircraft inhibit nuisance warnings while older aircaft do not. So if I'm in a newer aircraft I "abort for any abnormalities prior to V1". If I'm in an older aircraft I "abort for anything prior to 80 kts, after 80 kts will abort for engine fire, failure, loss of directional control, TR deploy or red light."

As with everything else in aviation, tailor your brief to your situation, don't use just one brief for all occasions.

I like to keep it simple stupid (KISS). We all know the usual abort criteria. I really dont think it is important to repeat this 3-6 times a day. I like to review initial heading or turn and altitude...."runway heading to 3000, any questions?" or "runway heading to 1200, then turn left heading 270 and up to 5000, any questions".

I know that most of you wont agree with me, but the more you talk, the less I hear.

 

[Archie Bunker]

I like to keep it simple stupid (KISS). We all know the usual abort criteria. I really dont think it is important to repeat this 3-6 times a day. I like to review initial heading or turn and altitude...."runway heading to 3000, any questions?" or "runway heading to 1200, then turn left heading 270 and up to 5000, any questions".

I know that most of you wont agree with me, but the more you talk, the less I hear.

I'm with you Ski.

If you want to brief abort criteria, abnormal procedures, the weather, the runway, the SID, or any other special considerations, the place to do it is in a pre-departure brief before you ever start engines. All I need to hear for a takeoff briefing is heading, altitude, and airspeed restrictions.

 

[moonlight]

I had a contract pilot I used to fly with that would say "We're cocked, locked, and ready to rock, captain." First time he said it, I about had to abort the TO and get back in line.

 

[FlyingFisherman]

This popped up in an email from a buddy of mine (I see where it came from) linked in the other thread. Hands down the best takeoff brief ever assembled:

check dis,
$hit go down for we be fast we be jaming da skids
after dat, we take it on the fly
don't do $hit tell 400 ft
I be drivin, you be jivin
take her around and land it southside

 

[400A]

I once had a co-pilot give the Auburn boys Basketball Team the following cabin briefing.

" alright boys, no fights, no fire's!!"