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T-6 and T-37 eagerly awaiting UPT

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FlyingHigh262

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Im getting ready to go to UPT, but I dont have my school dates yet. Just wondering do you guys know which bases still have the T-37 for UPT? How close are they to getting phased out? I would much rather fly the T-6! Which bases should I expect to go with the T-6 for the first phase of UPT? Vance, Laughlin, and Randolph for the T-6? and for the T-1 Columbus or Vance? or Randolph, but isnt that to train IPs? PLEASE ADVISE....
 
Down here at Laughlin we are all T6...Vance is all T6 now as well..Columbus still has Tweets until November time frame where they will start phasing in the T6...also you cant go to Randolph for UPT..its for PIT (instructor pilot training and Nav training). Also all the bases, Columbus, Vance, Laughlin have T1s so youll be staying there unless you track Herks or Helos
 
:cool: Real men fly the Tweeter. :cool:
 
Otto77 said:
Down here at Laughlin we are all T6...Vance is all T6 now as well..Columbus still has Tweets until November time frame where they will start phasing in the T6...also you cant go to Randolph for UPT..its for PIT (instructor pilot training and Nav training). Also all the bases, Columbus, Vance, Laughlin have T1s so youll be staying there unless you track Herks or Helos

so ill be at laughlin vance or columbus for phase 1 and 2?...im gonna be flying the kc135...
 
FlyingHigh262 said:
so ill be at laughlin vance or columbus for phase 1 and 2?...im gonna be flying the kc135...
You will be at the same base for all your UPT training unless you get assigned to Moody. Then you would go somewhere else for Phase 3, but I don't think they send Guard/Reserve guys to Moody in the first place, at least none that I have heard of.

Each base has it's own good and bad points, but either way, it will be a lot of fun. Good luck, have fun in stand up!
 
MarineGrunt said:
You will be at the same base for all your UPT training unless you get assigned to Moody. Then you would go somewhere else for Phase 3, but I don't think they send Guard/Reserve guys to Moody in the first place, at least none that I have heard of.

Each base has it's own good and bad points, but either way, it will be a lot of fun. Good luck, have fun in stand up!

thats what i figured with staying at the same base...ya i havent heard of any guard guys going to moody...plus i think they are closing it down...i try and make the best of any situation...i just want to be at pilot training at this point
 
well since you know what you'll be in... you're guard or reserve right?


which?

were you enlisted prior, or howd you get your foot in the door?

congrats on UPT!!! itll be a blast. hopefully i'll be there in 4 years :)
 
frog_flyer said:
well since you know what you'll be in... you're guard or reserve right?


which?

were you enlisted prior, or howd you get your foot in the door?

congrats on UPT!!! itll be a blast. hopefully i'll be there in 4 years :)

im enlisted prior in the guard...ive been in for almost 7yrs....im currently a kc-135 crew chief so ill be flying the same aircraft ive been working on which is cool...NKAWTG...i just keep applying to different places...ive got a good stack of rejection letters going...it only takes one "yes" and ur in so dont let anyone stop ur attack...someone will eventually let you in...just keep applying to as many places as you can
 
I'm currently flying the T-1 here at vance, and flew the T-6 here as well. The tweets are still here, but they are dwindling fast. I think the last class that was going to fly the tweet here already started, so if you come here, it's the T-6 you'll be flying.
 
CFIIer said:
I'm currently flying the T-1 here at vance, and flew the T-6 here as well. The tweets are still here, but they are dwindling fast. I think the last class that was going to fly the tweet here already started, so if you come here, it's the T-6 you'll be flying.

what type aircraft are you gonna be flying in the reserves?
 
its not that i wouldnt fly it...i guess ive been to influenced by stories of the t-6 from people at upt...

Sorry -- didn't mean to sound so accusatory. Trying (badly) to be sarcastic. I've heard the T-6 is an awesome machine.

It's just that the T-37 is such an icon -- a wonderful airplane that served me well both in UPT and in ACE. I've got a lot of great memories in the Tweet.

I'm sure I learned more about flying in the T-37 than anywhere else.
 
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If you have a choice, take the tweet! It'll put hair on your chest. You'll be flying a "real" airplane at your Guard unit for the next hundred years or so. You might as well learn on technology for the same era. NKAWTG!
 
Hi!

Oh yes, you definitely want to fly the Cessna T-37, the best trainer ever built!

It's a classic. A classic is something that used to be good or popular, but has now been bypassed by current technology.

So, the T-37 may have a few quirks of a typical classic, for example:

The air conditioning doesn't work on the ground. It doesn't work in the air, either.

It is slightly noisier than the T-6. For example, you wear a pair of foam plugs under your noise-attenuating helmet, and you still have hearing loss after UPT.

When you push the throttles up to takeoff, nothing happens, except your ears recoil in pain, and it's hard to hear the tower telling you that they only cleared you for an IMMEDIATE takeoff, and asking you why you're still on the ground. Then, after about 10 seconds, you check to make sure the throttles are at their stops, because, still, nothing seems to be happening. Then, you look over on the parallel runway and watch the C-172 accelerate away from you down the runway, rocket into the sky, and dissapear into the wild blue yonder.

In return for the massive lack of thrust from both of the T-37's mighty engines, you still get crappy range/duration.

There is no pressurization, so those cross-country flights at FL 250 (it takes about 1.5 to make it that high) are a real pain in the a$$, not to mention about everywhere else.

The T-37 is an excellent beginner instrument platform. That is because the gauges and instruments have been randomly scattered around the aircraft. Since there's no good way to scan the instruments, you can do it however you want and the instructor can't tell you you're wrong. (A civilian guy I was flying with, in a real jet, went with me and looked inside a T-37 cockpit. He said, "Oh my g0d!!!"

The "ejection seat" is supposed to work correctly, as long as you're withing parameters: At least 10,000' AGL, with a positive vector away from the ground, you're flying fairly wings level, and you're going at least 450 kts. (An instructor and student I know ejected out of a burning T-37 in the pattern. Just after takeoff, it caught fire. The IP instructed the student to eject first, and then the IP ejected. I told him it was very noble that he looked after his student and put his safety first. The IP told me he thought they were too slow and too close to the ground when the student got out, and he wanted better parameters!)

But, best of all, is the sexy, sleek lines of the T-37! It just screams to all the ladies, "Date me, because I'm a JET PILOT!"

So, you definitely want the T-37, it's head and shoulders above the T-6

Cliff
YIP

PS-I hope you get the T-6! The main thing to do is take your time with the engine controls. Positively identify which control you have in your hand. You don't want to shut the engine down by mistake, especially close to the ground unless you want to test the excellent ejection seats.
 
Super Tweet

atpcliff said:
Oh yes, you definitely want to fly the Cessna T-37, the best trainer ever built!
When you push the throttles up to takeoff, nothing happens...


Too bad the AF didn't upgrade all Tweets to A-37s!

--on takeoff, you had to pull the nose right up or you would overspeed the gear before it could retract.

--it would do a triple immelmann

--max range procedure was to climb to 25,000 ft. and shut down an engine
 

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