T-38C production line

[Mud Eagle]

What is PMP? The only technological "advance" I ever saw was the throttle gate.

It is the NASA modification which re-shapes the inlets and nozzles. It also changes the engine a little, adding in a ceramic compressor core and changing the blades a but. The whole thing reportedly adds 19% to the takeoff static thrust.

It adds a little bit, but it's barely noticeable. Even worse is that the 'fat lip' intakes add enough drag that the jet is actually slower at altitude.

 

[Huggyu2]

Mr Turbo! You weren't at Oshkosh, you slacker!
The PMP is the "Propulsion Modification Program". The USAF borrowed NASA's 10+ year old redesign of the intake and exhaust to get more static thrust for takeoff performance. I've got a whopping 1.1 hours in the back of a Moody C-model, so that's about all I know about it (other than a lot of rumor). In early 2003, the regular T-38 TOLD that you would remember got relooked at, and changed for the more conservative. We now go Cat III anytime the sun is shining.

I'll check with JT. I'm hoping to crack 3K in March, and am curious to see if there are any other active Talon Drivers with that much. I know there used to be a lot, but not anymore. I'm planning a 4 ship with 7 drivers (me solo, of course) and I'm thinking we can get 13K hours of Talon experience in the formation. Plus, it's another opportunity to have a party.

Change 1: I see Mud Eagle's post. Sorry I repeated what he said.

 

[Floyd R. Turbo]

Don't worry about the repetition, you know I need four or five times for it to sink in. JT told me about that mod, I didn't realize that was the name.

I was bummed about not making Oshkosh, but looking at jumpseating and renting cars and parking and yada yada yada.... and having to get back in time for my trip, I wussed out... Flying in is the only way to go, so hopefully next year everything will align and I'll be camping in the vintage area again.

Had dinner with Crash tonight (Had to do a quick YC touch and go to check on my house), he seemed fired up about the OST. Whatsa matter, couldn't get anyone to fly with you? Wish I could fill that seat, although I wouldn't help with the numbers much--500 hr wienie that I am--but hey... it was quality time, at least for me

I'm coming back out here for his retirement (Can't miss that, it was bad enough missing the reunion), so I'll see you in the Heritage Room sometime next month. Cool down the beer and heat up the dice.

Cheers!