swatogether

[scoreboardII]

Interesting SWA has decided to take step two and go all in with not only public negotiations, but with selectively comparing pilots and rampers pay with industry metrics, to incite tribalism within the ranks at SWA. And, notice FA's are not compared, they wouldn't want to piss them off, they strike.

http://swatogether.com/our-people/pilots

 

[St. Nic]

SWA= just another regional airline.
Had to buy your way into dca and lga
Barely making $$$
Screwing Trannies
Ha ha

Yep. Just another 737 airline.

 

[FIREMAN]

Translation - we will give you a small raise for scope and scheduling.

 

[jonjuan]

Interesting SWA has decided to take step two and go all in with not only public negotiations, but with selectively comparing pilots and rampers pay with industry metrics, to incite tribalism within the ranks at SWA. And, notice FA's are not compared, they wouldn't want to piss them off, they strike.

http://swatogether.com/our-people/pilots

Probably because FAs as compared to pilots aren't primarily the breadwinners. That and they can easily replace a similar paying job. A pilot making 300K? Not so much (except for PCL, that is).

 

[FlyinGuy]

No scope relief and no PBS type of scheduling. We worked hard and gave up real dollars for that language and it will be VERY expensive for them to get relief!

 

[DougCorp-9]

The end of the "Culture" is near. SWA is just another legacy carrier and the labor problems are going to be huge in the future.

 

[St. Nic]

The end of the "Culture" is near. SWA is just another legacy carrier and the labor problems are going to be huge in the future.

How's that Philly operation going ? Lol

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

No scope relief and no PBS type of scheduling. We worked hard and gave up real dollars for that language and it will be VERY expensive for them to get relief!

Never happen. It's time to pay the piper. You made the bed, we all have to sleep in it. Enjoy the captain seats and years on reserve.

 

[canyonblue]

That and they can easily replace a similar paying job.

You do understand that we have F/A's who make $100,000 a year?

 

[ATLplt]

You do understand that we have F/A's who make $100,000 a year?

And ones who haven't flown in years still collecting benefits from the company.

 

[redflyer65]

SWA= just another regional airline.
Had to buy your way into dca and lga
Barely making $$$
Screwing Trannies
Ha ha

Yep. Just another 737 airline.

Wow. Such anger. That old USair payscale must really suck. SW gets some DCA slots and the Easties come out swinging. It's just business guys, relax.

The company is trying to flex their muscle for all unions to see. There's no way we will vote in PBS or codeshare so on those two counts, their dreaming.

 

[HowardBorden]

Nothing to see hear, move along. The players involved already know all the info reported and will vote accordingly. This is nothing more than company propaganda to pit union groups against each other, but what they fail to realize is we are all in this together and all in the negotiations phase. I think all union groups support each other in realizing their negotiating goals.

 

[jonjuan]

You do understand that we have F/A's who make $100,000 a year?

Yikes. They better be going after them to get that reduced. No way any FA should make more than the most junior pilot.

 

[INIT REF]

This industry was ruined when flight attendants began treating it like a career and pilots began treating it like a job.

 

[KarmaPolice]

This industry was ruined when flight attendants began treating it like a career and pilots began treating it like a job.

ha. well said.

 

[freightdogfred]

This industry was ruined when flight attendants began treating it like a career and pilots began treating it like a job.

I wisht I'd a said that, true dat

 

[Scoot 11]

SWA= just another regional airline.
Had to buy your way into dca and lga
Barely making $$$
Screwing Trannies
Ha ha

Yep. Just another 737 airline.

Says the Doosh bag working for Mesa east. Hey kid, your 0930 student called. He's gonna be late for his cross country.

 

[HowardBorden]

This chart is conspicuously missing from the website. Surely it is relevant.

http://www.swapa.org/Portals/0/images/charts/chart-c.png

 

[JT12345]

Not sure about the Spirit and Jetblue numbers. Jetblue numbers look way off.

 

[Jim]

The Hawaiian numbers are slightly off too. They are using our 717 rates. We have A321neo rates which are higher and a closer equivilent aircraft.

 

[St. Nic]

Says the Doosh bag working for Mesa east. Hey kid, your 0930 student called. He's gonna be late for his cross country.

Deposit $10,000 for a job interview at Corndog Air.

 

[ArcadiaMaxima]

You do understand that we have F/A's who make $100,000 a year?

That's because she divorced you.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Never happen. It's time to pay the piper. You made the bed, we all have to sleep in it. Enjoy the captain seats and years on reserve.

Are you a crack head???

What the flip are you talking about?

 

[waveflyer]

This chart is conspicuously missing from the website. Surely it is relevant.

http://www.swapa.org/Portals/0/images/charts/chart-c.png

Exactly

Relevant for sure

 

[waveflyer]

The Hawaiian numbers are slightly off too. They are using our 717 rates. We have A321neo rates which are higher and a closer equivilent aircraft.

It's such a sad Play in a tired book.

I think randy Babbitt has a LOT to learn about swapa and swa employees overall

Good enough guy
But a LOT to learn.

 

[waveflyer]

Says the Doosh bag working for Mesa east. Hey kid, your 0930 student called. He's gonna be late for his cross country.

+1.... One might think there will plenty of opportunities in phl after the combined American sorts it's strategies out-
Rising tide raises all ships and consolidation is certainly raising the tide

 

[PCL_128]

This chart is conspicuously missing from the website. Surely it is relevant.

http://www.swapa.org/Portals/0/images/charts/chart-c.png

They're paying VdV $2.3 million? What a waste.

 

[St. Nic]

+1.... One might think there will plenty of opportunities in phl after the combined American sorts it's strategies out-
Rising tide raises all ships and consolidation is certainly raising the tide

Yea sure. SWA has a chance in Philly. How about PIT- PHL for starters.

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

Sadly the Allegiant graph is right on. Rest assured we are doing everything we can to change that.

 

[AKAAB]

JetBlue does not have minimum 5hr/duty period rigs. We have a trip rig that often means flying multiple legs on day one, then only one leg home on day two. For example:
Day 1 - 7.4
Day 2 - 2.5
=9.9
With duty period rigs, that would add up to 12.4 hours of pay (7.4 +5.0 (rig)), but Jetblue totals the trip and then applies the rig. Two days, 5 hrs/day AVERAGE! Thus, this would only pay 10hrs - saving JB 2hrs of cost.

Any questions about why we want a negotiated contract and not take-it-or-leave-it individual employment agreement?