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The Hawaiian numbers are slightly off too. They are using our 717 rates. We have A321neo rates which are higher and a closer equivilent aircraft.

It's such a sad Play in a tired book.

I think randy Babbitt has a LOT to learn about swapa and swa employees overall

Good enough guy
But a LOT to learn.
 
Says the Doosh bag working for Mesa east. Hey kid, your 0930 student called. He's gonna be late for his cross country.

+1.... One might think there will plenty of opportunities in phl after the combined American sorts it's strategies out-
Rising tide raises all ships and consolidation is certainly raising the tide
 
+1.... One might think there will plenty of opportunities in phl after the combined American sorts it's strategies out-
Rising tide raises all ships and consolidation is certainly raising the tide

Yea sure. SWA has a chance in Philly. How about PIT- PHL for starters.
 
JetBlue does not have minimum 5hr/duty period rigs. We have a trip rig that often means flying multiple legs on day one, then only one leg home on day two. For example:
Day 1 - 7.4
Day 2 - 2.5
=9.9
With duty period rigs, that would add up to 12.4 hours of pay (7.4 +5.0 (rig)), but Jetblue totals the trip and then applies the rig. Two days, 5 hrs/day AVERAGE! Thus, this would only pay 10hrs - saving JB 2hrs of cost.

Any questions about why we want a negotiated contract and not take-it-or-leave-it individual employment agreement?
 
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Hey Kernal Lee


In case you missed this:


But, while our Contract offers many industry leading work rules and compensation, we also have restrictions in the CBA that places Southwest at a competitive disadvantage, for example:
http://d3jhnthbmbdyn.cloudfront.net/CBACompDisadChart_New_728.png


Since 2000, our labor cost disadvantage for Pilots has been driven by competitor bankruptcies and our own escalating wage scales.





Thanks for all the negotiating capital.



PBS
Codeshare
Bankruptcy
 
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The Spirit numbers looked correct. The only error I saw was that they omitted that Spirit also has hard line bidding. No PBS at NK.
 
No no, thank you! For chronically low wages your first 20 years. Not to mention PFT and no pension. We all [legacy pilots] know exactly how you feel...
And we thank you for the chronically low wages of the last decade and embracing the outsourcing juggernaut that placed tens of thousands of pilots on perpetual subsistence wages all while continually shrinking the pool of higher paying jobs.
 

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