SWAPA TA failure just cost me $1,200 per month

[Max Powers]

I am a senior FO at SWA and my pay rate was scheduled to go from $108 to $121 after the TA (from about $120/hour to $135/hr).

I fly 120 trips per month, so the TA failure cost me $1,200 per month. Every month.

Would I write a check for $1,200 per month to keep ELITT the same? Nope. How about to let lance captains continue to take senior FO lines and give them to junior FOs? Nope.

This is the interesting part: I've asked every FO I've come in contact with in the last week what they thought their gross pay raise was going to be if the TA passed. Not one had an answer.

Luckily, SWA just announced 9% lower revenues for last month, so I'm sure our pay raises will be even better (not) when we go back to the table.

You guys don't know a good thing when it's looking you in the eye.

Spoken like a true Idiot. This must be your first airline and first union. It not just the money. I bet your a joy to fly with. Go back to watching fox news little boy.

 

[T3700]

We have a few of the same whiners at AirTran. I remember one pilot complaining "just because we have people on furlough, I don't see why I shouldn't pick up open time to make extra money".

Go back to watching fox news little boy.

And which unbiased, always truthful, TV news channel do you watch?

 

[HA25]

Im all about raising the bar in pay, but this gripe at a time where there is a lot of people on the street looking for a job was not timed well.

As much as I love the picture, I've had two complaints that your avatar and signature border or pornography. Please find something more subtle to use.

thanks
FMS-Speed
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[ArianaAfghanAir]

I am a senior FO at SWA and my pay rate was scheduled to go from $108 to $121 after the TA (from about $120/hour to $135/hr).

I fly 120 trips per month, so the TA failure cost me $1,200 per month. Every month.

Would I write a check for $1,200 per month to keep ELITT the same? Nope. How about to let lance captains continue to take senior FO lines and give them to junior FOs? Nope.

This is the interesting part: I've asked every FO I've come in contact with in the last week what they thought their gross pay raise was going to be if the TA passed. Not one had an answer.

Luckily, SWA just announced 9% lower revenues for last month, so I'm sure our pay raises will be even better (not) when we go back to the table.

You guys don't know a good thing when it's looking you in the eye.

Do you realize the significance of your no vote. It was due to smart pilots protecting their jobs. No scope, no RJ's, no holes in the contract. If that vote would have passed, I guarantee you would have seen 100+ RJ's at WN pretty soon after with no one being hired for ten years behind you. Look at what developed at United. You should really think about the significance about that before you whine about $1200/month. In the long run you protected your $250K/yr job. Think!

 

[RDG]

I guess you're not reading this. The ELITT DTC restrictions are only meaningful if the net zero is zero. If the net zero was substantially positive, DTC would be meaningless.

Funny, funny.

What are you talking about dude? If a day is red, its red. It does not matter if the net zero is up to 100, if a Friday is red and you have a three day starting that day, you can't trade off it. DTC is not meaningless.

 

[filejw]

Wow, you sound like a UAL pilot circa 2000: "Give me my raises... I don't care about the outsourcing Section 1 allows." Your biggest pay raise will come when SWA grows its own fleet (instead of Volaris & WestJet) and you upgrade to Captain. Then you'll get your lousy $1200 a month and then some.

glad to see somebody that understands what happened to the UAl's of the world and is trying to prevent it. There is no reason SWA can't fly it own A/C to Mexico or Canada...i can think of some great routes you guys soud be flying PHl YUL YYZ .how about both canadian city's to Fla.....

 

[BLing]

I lost $10,000 a month for a net income of ZERO so shut it!

 

[The Victors]

Do you realize the significance of your no vote. It was due to smart pilots protecting their jobs. No scope, no RJ's, no holes in the contract. If that vote would have passed, I guarantee you would have seen 100+ RJ's at WN pretty soon after with no one being hired for ten years behind you. Look at what developed at United. You should really think about the significance about that before you whine about $1200/month. In the long run you protected your $250K/yr job. Think!

Guarantee? I'll take that bet. You do realize that the TA stopped domestic RJ codeshare and now we have nothing that stops swa from domestic codeshare.

 

[Max Powers]

We have a few of the same whiners at AirTran. I remember one pilot complaining "just because we have people on furlough, I don't see why I shouldn't pick up open time to make extra money".




And which unbiased, always truthful, TV news channel do you watch?

I listen to all, especially PBS New Hour. PBS just reports the occurrences; in other words the facts. Sorry, did not mean to offend but if I see Fox news on one more time in the break room I'm going to snap. I mean I'd rather watch "my sweet 16" on MTV - then those guys yelling at each other. FWIW I am a Colin P. Republican. Why can't we just have a civilized discussion about the different solutions to our problems.

 

[Colonel Savage]

As much as I love the picture, I've had two complaints that your avatar and signature border or pornography. Please find something more subtle to use.

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FMS-Speed
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