SWAPA Comments about 717

[madjack]

so many. fo's wouldn't be displaced if SWA hadn't taken every capt seat,

Not sure of your logic here, but I am not that smart and will assume you are right...but if we are going down memory lane, let's not forget SL-9 with 10 year seat locks for AAI CPs and SWA pay for everyone...not good enough for the MEC...the bed has been made, sleep in it!!

 

[fletch717]

so many. fo's wouldn't be displaced if SWA hadn't taken every capt seat,

Not sure of your logic here, but I am not that smart and will assume you are right...but if we are going down memory lane, let's not forget SL-9 with 10 year seat locks for AAI CPs and SWA pay for everyone...not good enough for the MEC...the bed has been made, sleep in it!!

Don't forget the 35 percent seniority loss with the first deal. And no AirTran FO upgraded until every SWA pilot on the seniority list upgraded. Yeah how stupid of us to pass on that one.

 

[scoreboardII]

Dude, we get it it sucks, everything sucks, sorry, we (pilots) didn't get a vote.

 

[fletch717]

Dude, we get it it sucks, everything sucks, sorry, we (pilots) didn't get a vote.

I wouldn't say anything if SWA pilots would stop telling us how bad they are getting screwed in this deal.

 

[boeing717]

I wouldn't say anything if SWA pilots would stop telling us how bad they are getting screwed in this deal.

Get over it. It is getting old listening to guys complain. You voted for it now live with it. It won't make a difference 50 years from now anyway. If you really do not like it quit. Most people do not really care how you feel. If you die today the first question people ask is what was their seniority number. Does that tell you what really matters?

 

[fletch717]

Get over it. It is getting old listening to guys complain. You voted for it now live with it. It won't make a difference 50 years from now anyway. If you really do not like it quit. Most people do not really care how you feel. If you die today the first question people ask is what was their seniority number. Does that tell you what really matters?

I'm not the one complaining, and believe me I am over it. I really don't care anymore, about anything.

 

[PCL_128]

Know one will get laid off. This is one thing you guys should see. The company takes pride in no furloughs.

I tend to agree, and this is what I've been telling people who are worried about furloughs. But some of them respond with "yeah, but SWA doesn't really see us as their employees." And frankly, that's a valid argument. We've consistently been treated as outsiders, not as SWA employees. So, would SWA have as much hesitation in getting rid of us as they would a "real" SWA pilot? I don't know.

 

[dicko]

Southwest Management has added a "handling grief" module to our recurrent training and has asked ALPA to activate our CIRP team (Critical Incident Response), paid them for trip pulls to put them in crew rooms to help handle the stress,

Not quite.

SWA management asked our MEC to be in the crew room for the announcement of the event that they claimed was merely a rumor. The MEC declined and offered the CIRP team instead.

 

[dicko]

the bed has been made, sleep in it!!

An AirTran CA made that bed for you Jack, just before 'Papi' kicked him out of it for you. With a metaphorical gun to his head.

 

[Just thinking]

Does any of this really matter.... it all sucks
He will do whatever he wants with no regard for anyone. Just wait until he comes for his pound of flesh SWAPA.
Nobody will tell gk how to run his company. Nobody in the hierarchy will tell the emperor he has no clothes.
Single engine taxi will save millions.... Not how WE do it (yeah I know they have finally adopted this procedure.) Put extra seats in the aircraft and then have to block them out because they can't get the weight and balance accomplished for months..... Operate the engines this way with supporting date from Boeing to show the millions of dollars to be saved.... that is not how WE do it. Dispatch an aircraft past "herb" time to keep utilization rate high earning millions..... We don't do that.

SWA may have purchased lowly AirTran but in doing so they have pulled back the curtain and many have seen the money that is wasted and it is disgusting. Maybe gk bought AirTran to drag SWA into the 1990's. Unfortunately they are not poised to succeed and they playing catch up at best.