SWA yes vote:

[ivauir]

Uh...did everybody have a good July 4th??...:cartman:

It was great. You?

 

[Bob Dylan]

So I'm sitting here thinking what would it take to get a yes vote from a SWA pilot. So I pretend I am one. Lets say they hand me a list and I move down 1 number. I would vote no.

Why vote yes? Nothing changes in my world. So it goes to arbitration... Now I move down say 10 numbers. I would file lawsuits and pull a USAir. Nothing changes in my world.

I would then hope that someone gets fed up with the situation and just makes Airtran go away. If not, eventually we merge ten years down the road and I move down a couple numbers.

In this short thought exercise I discovered that you couldn't possibly get my yes vote... Let alone 50%. So with that in mind how does it end?

Gotta agree. If I were a SWA pilot I wouldn't accept anything less than a staple. I wouldn't vote for anything else or accept moving down one single number and wouldn't accept even one trannie senior to me. I would also gladly push this thing out for years and years. Sorry but that's the truth.

Trannies need to take a staple and get on the list. Gonna be ugly for them otherwise.

 

[Lonestar]

And you worry about AAI pilots ruining the SWA culture! Great attitude.

Maybe I am missing something, but isn't crashpad an AirTran pilot? If so, then you might want to reconsider...

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

The process agreement is not an integration mandate.

You are correct, it is not an integration mandate, but it does mandate the steps to a possible integration and negotiation, mediation, and arbitration are steps set out and agreed to by all parties. I don't think any party can just back out of the process until it has run it's course.

 

[Bill Nelson]

You are correct, it is not an integration mandate, but it does mandate the steps to a possible integration and negotiation, mediation, and arbitration are steps set out and agreed to by all parties..

Possible is the key word.

 

[RLAblows]

It was great. You?

It really sux that you can't buy bottle rockets anymore.

 

[bravodude]

Just wanted to "Mark your word" and ask for more info. This is the first I've heard of this threat. Please quote from the applicable documents in writing as to how this may occur. Thanks in advance.

Sorry no more info for you. You will not get any applicable documents. Nice try! As for me after last week I feel a lot better. Just keep "flexing your muscle" I'm sure it will all work out.

 

[ivauir]

It really sux that you can't buy bottle rockets anymore.

It is so dry where I am that we couldn't have any fireworks! No big deal though, I played with the kids in the pool. Freedom, friends and family. The fireworks are just a bonus.

 

[RLAblows]

It is so dry where I am that we couldn't have any fireworks! No big deal though, I played with the kids in the pool. Freedom, friends and family. The fireworks are just a bonus.

Very nice!

 

[On Your Six]

It needs to end with a negotiated agreement.

How about it goes to abritration, then it's time to negotiate all the other intangibles on the AAI side. Things like 717 payrates, fences, and even things as simple as a probation period, and it goes on and on. After the SLI comes out from the arbitor, who gets to decide these things?

Does the simple posting of an ISL by an arbitor panel automatically cause SWAPA to pull a USair move? I don't think so. There are alot more moving parts than that.

RF

Was there a reason you didn't do the joint contract first, like the only successful merger integration so far? Oh yeah, you were hoping to use your higher pay as an issue in your SLI with a possible arbitrator. Too bad the last arbitrator with PNCL and Colgan didn't seem to care too much about that.


OYS

 

[ivauir]

Was there a reason you didn't do the joint contract first, like the only successful merger integration so far? Oh yeah, you were hiping to use your higher pay as an issue in your SLI with a possible arbitrator. Too bad the last arbitrator with PNCL and Colgan didn't seem to care too much about that.


OYS

You really should take the time to familiarize yourself with the basic elements of a topic if you are going to pontificate on that particular subject.

 

[On Your Six]

You really should take the time to familiarize yourself with the basic elements of a topic if you are going to pontificate on that particular subject.

Did you do a joint contract first, before the SLI? No. Who did and was successful the first time around? What did the latest arbitrated result say about lower paying Colgan blending in with higher paid jet Captains? You are the one who needs to look this up. Precedent could be used.



OYS

 

[Flycatcher99]

Did you do a joint contract first, before the SLI? No. Who did and was successful the first time around? What did the latest arbitrated result say about lower paying Colgan blending in with higher paid jet Captains? You are the one who needs to look this up. Precedent could be used.



OYS

Are you hard of reading? Arbitration is not necessarily the end result here, and even if it is, the two operations may never be merged (by order of GK himself), and even if they are, there are many other issues that remain to be resolved than the ISL itself. If I were an AAI pilot, I would be very concerned about the SLI not getting resolved in the negotiation phase.

You know extremely little about this acquisition and its circumstances, OYS. Keep parroting "precedent". It doesn't make you look as smart as you think it does.

 

[redflyer65]

Was there a reason you didn't do the joint contract first, like the only successful merger integration so far? Oh yeah, you were hoping to use your higher pay as an issue in your SLI with a possible arbitrator. Too bad the last arbitrator with PNCL and Colgan didn't seem to care too much about that.


OYS

Because we already have a contract OYS...what don't you understand? The trannies can help us craft the rest NOW, or we can get the ISL from the arbitor and SWAPA will craft it for them. And before someone jumps up and down and says I'm threating them...I'm just stating the way it's setup.

Just shows how clueless you are about what's going on here OYS.

RF

 

[Skybus]

And you worry about AAI pilots ruining the SWA culture! Great attitude.

Old Man, Put you reading glasses on please. He is "pretending" to be a SW Pilot in this exercise. Point is who cares what HE thinks? Not at all the prevailing attitude.

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