SWA to lower mins?

[Tejas-Jet]

1300 turbine PIC and an extra 6 grand to purchase the job....er...type rating.

Not everyone at SWA actually paid for a type rating. I didn't. My legacy airline gave it to me....maybe thats why they filed for BK....

 

[BigShotXJTdrvr]

I have about 1500 PIC in the E145, but have not put an app in yet. Anyone know if that counts strongly against you, or have people been hired when applying with a lot more than the mins?

 

[RedDogC130]

I have about 1500 PIC in the E145, but have not put an app in yet. Anyone know if that counts strongly against you, or have people been hired when applying with a lot more than the mins?

What are you waiting for?

 

[swa737-700]

Not everyone at SWA actually paid for a type rating. I didn't. My legacy airline gave it to me....maybe thats why they filed for BK....

The great state of Missouri paid for mine!!

 

[Benhuntn]

Va paid for mine. The best investment they made for my benefit. The masters they paid for really didn't do much for me.

 

[FR8dognit]

I heard that too...didn't say when though. I would count on it being 1300...then if it changes before you get it...you just got a gift!! :beer:

BTW---IMHO-It was a good investment for Old Uncle Sam too. He will now reap the rewards of your higher wages and his cut will be bigger than if you were at some other lower paying place!! So everybody wins.imp: Except for the guy who didn't gamble the $7380.00 on a type.
It is a gamble...but have you ever heard of pot odds? $7380.00 vs. a chance at a career with SWA. Sounds like pretty good pot odds to me!

 

[ERJpusher]

1300 hours isn't the average-- it is just the minimum number of hours that is considered competitive.

 

[iaflyer]

Does sole manipulator of the controls count for the PIC time?

from the Southwest website:

Southwest Airlines defines "Pilot in Command" for the purposes of application for employment as the Pilot ultimately responsible for the operation and safety of the aircraft during flight. The Pilot in Command should also be the Pilot who signed for the aircraft and who is the ultimate authority for the operation of that flight. For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot In Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander in the appropriate aircraft. Time logged, as "Other Time" will not be considered. When converting taxi time a conversion factor of .3 or eighteen minutes, per leg/sortie should be used. These guidelines are imposed by Southwest Airlines for the purpose of standardizing the calculation of flight time.

 

[fugghedabowdit]

I have about 1500 PIC in the E145, but have not put an app in yet. Anyone know if that counts strongly against you, or have people been hired when applying with a lot more than the mins?

I initially applied with about 2000 jet PIC, I'm in class right now. Get it in. Good luck.

 

[capt. megadeth]

1300 turbine PIC and an extra 6 grand to purchase the job....er...type rating. Still a deal breaker for me. But there appears to be no shortage of willing participants, so the joke's on me, isn't it?

I have 2 friends that just got hired without the type. Obviously, they need to go get it but IMHO it pays for itself.

 

[elcid]

I'm currently flying a trip with a Captain who does interviews. He says he would guess that about 1/3 of the pilots he interviews don't have the type. Said he doesn't know how many of those actually get hired. However, I've always been told that once you get to the interview they consider you a qualified applicant... period. The job is yours to gain or lose. It's all what the interviewers and reference checkers think of you after that.

 

[Muddauber]

Requirement has always been 1,000.

Wrong.

We require a minimum of 1,300 hours in Turbine aircraft as the Pilot in command of fixed wing aircraft.


Muddy

 

[TV9Driver]

I got my type about 3 years ago, i've got over 1,300 pic turbine, nocheckride busts or failures, lots of friends/recommendations at SWA, and I still can't get an interview. There is obviously something they don't like about me...I just can't figure it out...

 

[RedDogC130]

I got my type about 3 years ago, i've got over 1,300 pic turbine, nocheckride busts or failures, lots of friends/recommendations at SWA, and I still can't get an interview. There is obviously something they don't like about me...I just can't figure it out...

Do you have a 4 year degree? Your profile says space shuttle driver.....wow, no call yet...amazing.

 

[pilotyip]

Lack of 4 yr degree is not a show stopper at SWA. Nearly 7% of the pilots hired last year did not have a 4 yr degree.

 

[RedDogC130]

No a show stopper but it sure does help. 7% 7 out of 100, not good odds.

 

[TV9Driver]

Yep, i've got the 4 year degree.

One of my buddies that works there talked to someone in the hiring department and he said the only thing they could think of was my PIC time wasn't recent enough or I wasn't updating enough. My PIC isonly 3 years old, but I guess that must be it.

Maybe being furloughed from a major is a mark against you? I don't know.. I still can't figure it out.

 

[PCL_128]

No a show stopper but it sure does help. 7% 7 out of 100, not good odds.

Seven percent is pretty good when less than 7% of the guys applying don't have a four-year degree.

 

[jtmpilot]

TV9Driver, check your app. closely, make sure you update everything... residence history to be up to present month and etc. and at the bottom update the date electronically signed, sounds foolish but there is alot of things to update not just hours, i had a few friends miss the simple things, also in the aircraft flown section update the dates there too.... might show your app. not current if there is a date discrepancie

 

[Gofish]

1300 is what I head from another source. I also heard that it might drop again. I have a ways to go but it sure would be nice to work for a company that doesn't have that "legacy" menality.