SWA to hire 200

[waveflyer]

southwest.com/careers

Submit simple resume and you'll be emailed a link to fill out a profile

 

[fam62c]

No matter the reason, hiring folks who will be junior to me is a good thing! They better buy me beer, since I will be on the B scale another year.

Phred

The four-year apprenticeship program courtesy of your MEC

 

[ASH]

Would an fo be willing to post his/her take home pay, with years of service. I know it's a bit personal but it's hard to deduce what actual pay is just from a chart, so many variables. Thinking about ditching my overseas job, but have to run the numbers, any help is appreciated.

Also, would upgrade run about 15 years for a new hire?

 

[waveflyer]

7+ year $151k fly my line

Any predictions about upgrades beyond 5 years are dependent on too many factors- what we know is it would take growth to get there before 15 years and every legacy will be shorter-

A career at SWA now is about being into SWA- not about money or opportunity-

 

[Crash Pad]

I'm near the bottom of the list and with zero growth I'm a 20 year upgrade. I'm at Airtran and they tell us we will work at SWA one day but that is just a rumor that has been floating around since 2010.

Apparently SWA is growing by 200 pilots so my 20 year upgrade is down to 19.8 years! Looks like I'll be a Captain before my newborn graduates college!

 

[THEPRFCT10]

Would an fo be willing to post his/her take home pay, with years of service. I know it's a bit personal but it's hard to deduce what actual pay is just from a chart, so many variables. Thinking about ditching my overseas job, but have to run the numbers, any help is appreciated.

Also, would upgrade run about 15 years for a new hire?

airlinepilotcentral.com still has great pay calculators.

★Sent from my Galaxy S4★

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Whatever anybody tells you will be completely different when 1500 Airtran guys come in on top of you. Not saying it as a bad move, just saying any predictions are a WAG at best.

 

[vixin]

7+ $168,000 fly smart no extra. Take home just over $10,000 per month. I don't work to hard doing it.

 

[General Lee]

7+ $168,000 fly smart no extra. Take home just over $10,000 per month. I don't work to hard doing it.

What if you were in the bottom 200 for 7 years?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[milflyboy]

What if you were in the bottom 200 for 7 years?


Bye Bye---General Lee

Highly unlikely, but let's take one who is at the bottom and do the math.

1+ years $106K not working very hard. With same seniority/bidding power would have made $154K as a 7+ year FO

 

[U2DRVR]

5+ year FO
I work 16 days most months avg 105 TFP.
will gross ~147K this year plus 13.5k for 401K plus ~6500 in per diem.

 

[tankerhead]

Whatever anybody tells you will be completely different when 1500 Airtran guys come on top of you.

Maybe he's into that?

 

[m80drvr]

2nd yr will make 105K fly average 105tfp. 2nd year pay is 84ish a trip. I still call it hours not trips, old school I guess.

On reserve you will have to pick up on days off to get to a 105 average for the year. It's slow in the winter and not much open time. West coast blank line is where I made most of my pay.

Reserve has 15 or 16 days off a month and about 90 hours pay.

 

[SIG600]

With SWA's TFP program and how they structure the pay, how does it compare when looking at the hourly pay rate published on APC? Is that page remotely close when comparing say a year 3 FO at SWA to a year 3 737 FO at say UAL, all things being equal?

 

[SWA Bubba]

With SWA's TFP program and how they structure the pay, how does it compare when looking at the hourly pay rate published on APC? Is that page remotely close when comparing say a year 3 FO at SWA to a year 3 737 FO at say UAL, all things being equal?

It's complicated.

Since TFP is based on distance first, then adjusted for time, it's actually possible for an eastbound leg to pay slightly more than a westbound leg of the same block duration. The union says that multiplying TFP rate by 1.18 yields an approximation of hourly rate. Also, Southwest schedules tend to be more efficient in actual flying per pairing, so you might want to consider that. Pilots' lines typically start at 95-100 per month (including overlap, etc.), which with that formula, would require averaging up to 85 hours/month. Having never worked at another carrier, I don't know if that is typical.

It depends on what you want. The actual "average" SWAPA pilot (excluding reserves) flies something like 110-115 TFP/month, after massaging his or her schedule. Some guys want to fly less, some want to fly more. Believe it or not, the "record" is ~345 TFP in one month (but that required vacation pay and flying a lot of premium and paid deadheads). It all depends on your definition of "quality of life" and how much money you want or need.

Bubba