SWA to add up to 50 new destinations over the next few years as it continues to grow.

[vixin]

And now we fly the -800 for the same rates, and don't go to HI.

Thats because SWAPA is a weak POS! Follow that up by a bunch of yes men koolaid sheeple and you have 800's for free. Plus all the other SL the idiots in SWAPULL land put out.

 

[scarlet]

Houston going to go south.

Hawaii is a trash market. Its mostly rewards travel. Ask any major CEO, they will tell you that. Gordon Bethune said they had to fly there for their members of Onepass, but was not a money maker at all.

Ask Richard how much money that ATL-HNL brings in?

Dallas to CLT/GSO prices for example, 1200-1500. More then some Europe cities.

 

[scoreboardII]

Scoreboard
North America includes the US, Canada, Mexico, Central America, and all of the Caribbean. I'm sure that when Gary is talking about 50 new destinations for SWA he is including places that AirTran is going now as new destinations for SWA.

Name 25, let alone fifty. That's what I'm saying.

 

[dicko]

Name 25, let alone fifty. That's what I'm saying.

Here's a start. For gods sake Darth, you're even giving the Flat Earth Society a bad name These are all served by Spirit and it's incomplete. Add Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal etc.


Bermuda and the Caribbean[edit]
Aruba

Oranjestad (fQueen Beatrix International Airport)
The Bahamas

Nassau (Lynden Pindling International Airport)
San Salvador Island (San Salvador Airport)
Dominican Republic

Punta Cana (Punta Cana International Airport) Seasonal
Santiago (Cibao International Airport)

Santo Domingo (Las Am?ricas International Airport)
Haiti

Port-au-Prince (Toussaint Louverture International Airport)
Jamaica

Kingston (Norman Manley International Airport) Seasonal[2]

Montego Bay (Sangster International Airport)
Puerto Rico

Aguadilla (Rafael Hern?ndez Airport)

San Juan (Luis Mu?oz Mar?n International Airport)

Sint Maarten

Princess Juliana International Airport
United States Virgin Islands

St. Thomas (Cyril E. King Airport)
Central America
Costa Rica

San Jos? de Costa Rica (Juan Santamar?a International Airport)
Guatemala

Guatemala City (La Aurora International Airport)
Honduras

San Pedro Sula (Ram?n Villeda Morales International Airport)
Nicaragua

Managua (Augusto C. Sandino International Airport)
Panama

Panama City (Tocumen International Airport)
El Salvador

San Salvador (Monse?or ?scar Arnulfo Romero International Airport)
North America
Mexico
Baja California Sur

Cabo San Lucas (Los Cabos International Airport)
Quintana Roo

Canc?n (Canc?n International Airport)
State of Mexico

Toluca (Lic. Adolfo L?pez Mateos International Airport)

South America
Colombia

Armenia (El Ed?n International Airport)

Bogot? (El Dorado International Airport)

Cartagena (Rafael N??ez International Airport)

Medell?n (Jos? Mar?a C?rdova International Airport)
Peru

Lima (Jorge Ch?vez International Airport)

 

[Russ]

You think the high frequency model of SWA will work to some of these places?

 

[dicko]

You think the high frequency model of SWA will work to some of these places?

No friggin idea.

It seems as if "the model" was tossed out the window anyway. No idea what it is and I'm not sure anybody does. It certainly doesn't include a quick turn on even the smallest NG.

 

[FlyinGuy]

How many destinations does HA fly to?

Just sayin'!!

 

[scoreboardII]

Here's a start. For gods sake Darth, you're even giving the Flat Earth Society a bad name These are all served by Spirit and it's incomplete. Add Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal etc.


Bermuda and the Caribbean[edit]
Aruba

Oranjestad (fQueen Beatrix International Airport)
The Bahamas

Nassau (Lynden Pindling International Airport)
San Salvador Island (San Salvador Airport)
Dominican Republic

Punta Cana (Punta Cana International Airport) Seasonal
Santiago (Cibao International Airport)

Santo Domingo (Las Am?ricas International Airport)
Haiti

Port-au-Prince (Toussaint Louverture International Airport)
Jamaica

Kingston (Norman Manley International Airport) Seasonal[2]

Montego Bay (Sangster International Airport)
Puerto Rico

Aguadilla (Rafael Hern?ndez Airport)

San Juan (Luis Mu?oz Mar?n International Airport)

Sint Maarten

Princess Juliana International Airport
United States Virgin Islands

St. Thomas (Cyril E. King Airport)
Central America
Costa Rica

San Jos? de Costa Rica (Juan Santamar?a International Airport)
Guatemala

Guatemala City (La Aurora International Airport)
Honduras

San Pedro Sula (Ram?n Villeda Morales International Airport)
Nicaragua

Managua (Augusto C. Sandino International Airport)
Panama

Panama City (Tocumen International Airport)
El Salvador

San Salvador (Monse?or ?scar Arnulfo Romero International Airport)
North America
Mexico
Baja California Sur

Cabo San Lucas (Los Cabos International Airport)
Quintana Roo

Canc?n (Canc?n International Airport)
State of Mexico

Toluca (Lic. Adolfo L?pez Mateos International Airport)

South America
Colombia

Armenia (El Ed?n International Airport)

Bogot? (El Dorado International Airport)

Cartagena (Rafael N??ez International Airport)

Medell?n (Jos? Mar?a C?rdova International Airport)
Peru

Lima (Jorge Ch?vez International Airport)

50 MORE destinations. Most of the ones you list we already go to or will go to after AT ceases operations.

Lima is too far from HOU, so I'll give you five countable on your list. Now, wheres the other 45?

Not flat earth, just reality of what GK says, what we think it means, and what he really means. I've learned to decipher his double-speak.

 

[General Lee]

50 MORE destinations. Most of the ones you list we already go to or will go to after AT ceases operations.

Lima is too far from HOU, so I'll give you five countable on your list. Now, wheres the other 45?

Not flat earth, just reality of what GK says, what we think it means, and what he really means. I've learned to decipher his double-speak.

Pecos, Las Cruces, Demming, Ft Stockton, Beaumont, Waco, Wichita Falls, Roswell, Laredo, McAllen, Brownsville. All of those should be on your list!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[WalterSobchak]

Adding JB to the SWA family would add about 30 of those.

I count 35.

 

[redflyer65]

There's 10 in Mexico (not counting Mexico City) that have more than 1 million people.

Maybe another 5 in Canada? Add in Central and northern South America. It's a far cry for 50, but it's better than NO growth.

I think the model for international cities will be more in-line with other airlines. Feed them to our US gateways, then into our domestic system. Hell, that might even mean more flights domestically too...depending on the demand.

 

[redflyer65]

Lima is too far from HOU, so I'll give you five countable on your list. Now, wheres the other 45?

Could be possible from FLL though.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

There's 10 in Mexico (not counting Mexico City) that have more than 1 million people.

Maybe another 5 in Canada? Add in Central and northern South America. It's a far cry for 50, but it's better than NO growth.

I think the model for international cities will be more in-line with other airlines. Feed them to our US gateways, then into our domestic system. Hell, that might even mean more flights domestically too...depending on the demand.

Gateway? SWA speak for Hub Bubba?? =)

 

[redflyer65]

Hub? If that's what you want to call it Bill. We still have a TON of point to point domestically, but won't internationally. Hell, I just flew MKE-SEA completely full.

Adding Customs and Board Patrol to the mix WILL change the SW point to point service. Even you can understand that.

I think we will have defined entry points like....FLL, HOU, SAT, DEN, STL, PHX, BWI, and possibly LAS/LAX.

You wouldn't expect us to fly everyone from Mexico City to Omaha would you?

 

[Full of LUV]

"This is exactly the same tone of message delivered during the -800 talks regarding going to HI. "we need the -800 to go to HI, where else would we go with it?" (direct quote from chief of training). Next thing you know, the "rumor" morphed into must have the -800 to go to HI. And now we fly the -800 for the same rates, and don't go to HI."

Ouch.....

 

[Full of LUV]

Hawaii is a trash market. Its mostly rewards travel. Ask any major CEO, they will tell you that. Gordon Bethune said they had to fly there for their members of Onepass, but was not a money maker at all.
.

Wait.... I thought due to SWA's superior "cost containment" they were able to make money where everyone else lost. What about $59 each way from FLL to MDW?

 

[248to2.8]

The thing that makes me wonder is the way it was said. They have the "Opportunity" to expand to 50 new destinations. Not that they are adding 50 new destinations. Just that something changed that will allow them to now go to 50 new cities. Meaning to me that they aren't committed to a single new city yet, hence no names announced.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Hub? If that's what you want to call it Bill. We still have a TON of point to point domestically, but won't internationally. Hell, I just flew MKE-SEA completely full.

Adding Customs and Board Patrol to the mix WILL change the SW point to point service. Even you can understand that.

I think we will have defined entry points like....FLL, HOU, SAT, DEN, STL, PHX, BWI, and possibly LAS/LAX.

You wouldn't expect us to fly everyone from Mexico City to Omaha would you?

Easy....Northwest used to fly MKE-SEA with a DC-10 so you arent blazin any trails Hoss!

 

[redflyer65]

Easy....Northwest used to fly MKE-SEA with a DC-10 so you arent blazin any trails Hoss!

I missed your emoti there Bill. The point being, they aren't anymore. And neither is DL. I could probably give you around 500 (at least) of 3500 flights/day that nobody else does. That's my point.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Red,

There's a reason why nobody flies them anymore. Your cost structure doesn't support making it any cheaper. Stop running to a decade ago thinking you guys are the innovators in this industry.

No more fuel hedges to buy you some leverage in the RASM game.

I love how the dripping arrogance like you are leaders of this game. I mean, hell, I oughta throttle back....you do fly to SJU now and you got the "heavy" 737.