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boomlrd

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RAH will be the first SWA Express carrier! 190's to LBB!
 

Whataburger

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RAH will be the first SWA Express carrier! 190's to LBB!
Only if we get a side letter to negate the part of the new contract that prohibits RJ flying unless SWAPA pilots fly it.
 

Mea25000

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There will be no rest... Time now for you guys to buy some 717's and datranny.
Congrats on the new contract hopefully it works out great for you guys!
 

FR8dognit

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about a 93% turnout too. Glad it is over for now.
 

Tripower455

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Essentially the same as the TA we turned down, with less pay. I'll never understand this pilot group........
 

fiel12

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No RJ codeshare (except to provide inter-island service within the Hawaiian islands or Caribbean). TA1 allowed RJs if we bought a carrier with a regional (ie. F9). No domestic codeshare. Near international codeshare (ie. Mexico/ Canada) limited to 4% total ASMs flown by SWA. Holiday pay (at time and a half). 401k match to 7.8% in 2009, 9.3% in 2010. Full retro (salary and 401k). A little less pay than TA1, but not bad at all in this economy. I'd like to give a shout out to our negotiating team.

Cheers!
 
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shootr

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Trip,

Maybe the same for you...it is MUCH better for me and many like me. The differences are easily worth more than moving the 2% raise to the last year of the contract. Now instead of an earnings cut, I'll break even. Good? No. Better than TA1? No doubt! Sorry you had to wait for your retro and one of the 2% raises. Really, I am!

shootr
 

fiel12

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Trip,

Maybe the same for you...it is MUCH better for me and many like me. The differences are easily worth more than moving the 2% raise to the last year of the contract. Now instead of an earnings cut, I'll break even. Good? No. Better than TA1? No doubt! Sorry you had to wait for your retro and one of the 2% raises. Really, I am!

shootr
I agree.
For me the biggest improvement in TA2 was the change in RJ codeshare language. Because I used to work for a RJ carrier that took flying away from mainline. My company was increasingly serving markets with RJs that previously were flown by A320s and DC-9s.
 

Tripower455

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Trip,

Maybe the same for you...it is MUCH better for me and many like me. The differences are easily worth more than moving the 2% raise to the last year of the contract. Now instead of an earnings cut, I'll break even. Good? No. Better than TA1? No doubt! Sorry you had to wait for your retro and one of the 2% raises. Really, I am!

shootr
I am not gonna argue with you, but this is essentially the same POS that TA1 was, with less money.

Oh, and not only did I vote no on TA1, I was deeply involved in the grass roots efforts that got it shot down. I figured (incorrectly) that we, as a group, finally woke up, and that most would see TA2 as, at best, break even with TA1.

Now, as the "interpretation, errrr..... implementation plan" is enacted, we'll get to see what we really got, or didn't...... I am sure that the scheduling policy handbook is back from the printers already.
 

RedDogC130

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are you a lance.....if so quit your crying we are getting tired of it.....if your not....then oh well. I was a no voter for #1 but a Yes voter for #2....I think they fixed some good things with #2
 

redflyer65

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I like the changes in TA2 much better. So move the 2% raise down the road, I do better by moving the 2% 401k bump forward. We need to see the forest for the trees sometimes.

I'm glad to get it behind us and lets move on and focus our energy where it needs to be..
 

Tripower455

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are you a lance.....if so quit your crying we are getting tired of it.....if your not....then oh well.
Not a lance and haven't been for almost 9 years. I am not crying.


I was a no voter for #1 but a Yes voter for #2....I think they fixed some good things with #2
OK, whatever works for you......

As I said, I will never understand this pilot group......
 

Tank68

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No contract is perfect. Lots of things in this could be better and we can work on that next year when negotiations start again but this is good and better than TA1. I was no on TA1 Yes on TA2.

Bet we get a big announcement before December. No idea what it is but got the feeling Gary is feeling some heat to produce. FAA fines strike one, Frontier strike two. Gary needs a hit bad.
 

RedDogC130

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heard Airtran is going to have big announcement soon.....
 

Dash Power

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If you think its a better contract by negotiating half a million dollars less wages for an average career compared to the value of our 2006 wages, then congratulations.
 

Kharma Police

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heard Airtran is going to have big announcement soon.....
Yeah, we are buying you guys if we can get SWAPA to agree to being stapled to the bottom of our seniority list.
 
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