SWA question for Chase

[johnny taliban]

SWADUDE,

"some" is probably about 30 hours of light twin time. I was MEL rated and of the understanding that it was acceptable to log that time as PIC. It is a VERY SMALL fraction of my total PIC (2100ish).

Once again, should I be concerned???? (snoopy, care to chime in?)

Johnny

 

[SWAdude]

SWADUDE,

"some" is probably about 30 hours of light twin time. I was MEL rated and of the understanding that it was acceptable to log that time as PIC. It is a VERY SMALL fraction of my total PIC (2100ish).

Once again, should I be concerned???? (snoopy, care to chime in?)

Johnny

Personally I wouldn't be concerned. Without looking at your logbooks and seeing all your qualifications I wouldn't want to misguide you but like I said in my earlier post, most all of the civilians did this to some degree and yours sounds minimal.

SWAdude

 

[singlespeed]

SWAdude,

I have a very gray question(s). I don’t work for a fraq I work for a part 91 operator. I am a considered a captain at my company.

1. I got typed some time ago and when I did I had to have X amount of hours PIC to met the insurance mins. in type. I did most of the hrs with the CP. I did all flight planning and filed flight plans under my name made go/no go decisions. Will SWA count this as PIC? It’s our version of high mins.

2. Once off high mins. the CP was retiring and did not want to do as much. So when I flew with him I filed flight plans made go/no go decisions etc. How would SWA view this?

3. I fly with other people in the company who are more senior than I and we split the legs or days. One day I’ll do all flight planning with my name on the flight plan and the next the other person will file the legs. Would I be PIC on the legs that I filled?

4. If a train left San Diego at ….Opps wrong board

Thanks in advanced. I have plenty of single pilot King Air time and I did a lot of flying with the “old” new guy. At my company our hard fast rule is at one year you can sign for the aircraft but before this you are considered captain in training. The “old” new guy cruised after 10 months to go to SWA.

I stopped using a crayon to log entries about a year ago. I hope this helps with the interview process.

 

[SWAdude]

SWAdude,

I have a very gray question(s). I don’t work for a fraq I work for a part 91 operator. I am a considered a captain at my company.

1. I got typed some time ago and when I did I had to have X amount of hours PIC to met the insurance mins. in type. I did most of the hrs with the CP. I did all flight planning and filed flight plans under my name made go/no go decisions. Will SWA count this as PIC? It’s our version of high mins.

2. Once off high mins. the CP was retiring and did not want to do as much. So when I flew with him I filed flight plans made go/no go decisions etc. How would SWA view this?

3. I fly with other people in the company who are more senior than I and we split the legs or days. One day I’ll do all flight planning with my name on the flight plan and the next the other person will file the legs. Would I be PIC on the legs that I filled?

4. If a train left San Diego at ….Opps wrong board

Thanks in advanced. I have plenty of single pilot King Air time and I did a lot of flying with the “old” new guy. At my company our hard fast rule is at one year you can sign for the aircraft but before this you are considered captain in training. The “old” new guy cruised after 10 months to go to SWA.

I stopped using a crayon to log entries about a year ago. I hope this helps with the interview process.

Good question.

Did the CP also log this as PIC?? If you didn't meet the insurance minimums I would imagine he did or would have.

If SWA called the CP what would he tell them?

Answer this question. How much PIC time are we talking about??

SWAdude

 

[singlespeed]

Good question.

Did the CP also log this as PIC?? If you didn't meet the insurance minimums I would imagine he did or would have.

If SWA called the CP what would he tell them?

Answer this question. How much PIC time are we talking about??

SWAdude

He told me to go ahead and log it as PIC-T and that he was the FO on the trips. It was only 100 hrs and I waited till I hit 1100 PIC-T to submit my app. I've done the majority of my flying with the new guys that have been here less than one year. So the second part is clear.

I'm on a new rotation and now I fly with people how have been here a little longer but we still split the duties. We split the rotation so no two people get stuck together too long. I’ve been very lucky or unlucky if you will, because it takes us about 6-7 months to replace someone and get them on line. We have done this twice in less then two years. Contract FO's equal ALL PIC-T

 

[NEDude]

If you want to go one further, how about a turbine aircraft that does not require a type rating, operating under part 91 (ie. a PC-12). Does the person in the left seat, who is qualified (ASEL) and sole manipulator of the controls but not designated as PIC by the aircraft operator, get to log PIC for SWA?

Not really looking for an answer, but more to make a point - you could slice the equation many different ways. Every situation is unique.

I can only speak from authority on one thing, the PD at SWA is very helpful. I called them to ask a question about part of my app, and they were helpful and friendly. Take the advice Chase gave and call them. Unlike most other airlines, they really seem to enjoy helping people with the application process.

 

[chase]

thanks NE Dude

Another satisfied customer....calling the PD...priceless! Nothing like getting the real info!!!