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Thanks. I figured with your vitrol towards LCC pilots/airlines, you should direct it towards some of your finest aviators at TED!Brilliant comment.
Look how far those highest payrates got you! Bankruptcy is a wonderful thing, look how your management team was able to shed your pensions and high pay. Maybe you could thank Goodwin by sending him more money!Well the difference would be both of those guys are gone. The new guy (tilton) is here and so far he has done what he said he would do. As far as Goodwin goes he gave us the highest pay rates in the industry. Kelly is uncharted waters for a SWA CEO. But again, is this thread about UAL or SWA?
What is there to focus on 32, you are hung up on all LCC's. You are obviously jealous of our higher pay rates, I can understand that, but you just can't leave it alone!The only comment was that he was the president that has handle something Herb never did. In fact save the recent events SWA has an admirable safety record. Perhaps they just need to refocus on the areas where they are lacking and it will be a non issue. But The entire script was about the issues that Kelly has had to deal with versus Herb. I ask you is this about UAL or SWA? You are not focusing on this thread very well.
Therein lies the biggest misconception that people have about the airline market. It doesn't work that way. There comes a point where the fares get too high, and people WON'T fly. They'll teleconference for business or they'll find some workaround. The revenue management at most airlines has become so advanced that they can predict how many customers they'll lose with every fare increase. It's the risky game of revenue management...you raise fares, and you start losing some customers. The question is, will the fare increase offset those who don't fly you because you raised fares.
Wrong, fares are down 20% from 2000 not factoring in inflation. The reason people aren't flying is because of the security hassle. Flying has become more than a pain in the ass than ever, and the government's mass deception security plan is a complete failure. Furthermore, we are not talking raising fares $100, even 50 cents makes a huge difference.
It's even more difficult for WN, I think, because we don't offer frills. Herb figured out what people really want: low fares. IFE and the other frills are secondary to low fares. If we raise our fares to the level of the other airlines, then we've essentially lost our competitive advantage. In other words, if we're not THE low fare carrier, then we won't be an airline at all. (Those were Herb's words, by the way, not mine.)
Not exactly true either, DTW - DFW used to be over $700 on NWA, when SWA moved in, the fare was changed to about $150. That was years ago, now the fare is in the $200+ range, and NWA is cheaper and has less connections. This is happening all around us now, that's why SWA now has the lower capacity numbers, then most, if not all of the majors.
Thanks. I figured with your vitrol towards LCC pilots/airlines, you should direct it towards some of your finest aviators at TED!
This topic is about SWA profits being off by 77%, not about UAL. As to the TED pilots, they are United pilots not TED pilots. One may fly a TED flight followed by a mainline flight.
Now back to your regular ramblings.