SWA Poolies

[SELFloadingCRGO]

Here's a link from a guy who might know a thing or two about Southwest hiring plans. His name is Gary Kelly, and I guess he's kinda a big deal at SWA. He says no hiring this year and in fact the number of employees will shrink through attriton.

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/compon...s.cnbc.com/stickers/partners/cnbcplayershare/

Wow, and not 7 or 8 posts ago you were saying your buddy with the crystal ball is saying there is gonna be a furlough. Gosh, I just can't decide who to believe...

This industry runs on smoke and mirrors. No one is gonna show their hand to the other players until it's time to call. There could be unannounced new cities late this year or even the first part of next year. Dare I even say, maybe Canada.

The point is GK nor anyone at SWA is gonna let out what the future plans are until things are all but set in stone. Either way the last people to know will be any of us or your buddy for that matter.



SLC

 

[Tanker Clown]

I think we can all agree that a furlough is probably more likely than a new hire class. I hope I'm wrong, but you have to agree, when you're 300-500 fat in pilots and are going to cut the schedule again in August....I think that definitally says no new hires...and depending on when you would add capacity back....maybe a furlough would be advantagous.

 

[waveflyer]

Just ignore him

 

[texman]

I think we can all agree that a furlough is probably more likely than a new hire class. I hope I'm wrong, but you have to agree, when you're 300-500 fat in pilots and are going to cut the schedule again in August....I think that definitally says no new hires...and depending on when you would add capacity back....maybe a furlough would be advantagous.

So are your facts right, I don't think so. Who do you really know at SWA? The first question is when does RNP step 4 training start. What is the actual number of aircraft being used in May compared to Sept. Does this include the massive change in technology the scheduling and planning department has gone through, I don't think so. Your numbers are off. Think more productive my friend.

 

[AnimalTale]

I think we can all agree that a furlough is probably more likely than a new hire class. I hope I'm wrong, but you have to agree, when you're 300-500 fat in pilots and are going to cut the schedule again in August....I think that definitally says no new hires...and depending on when you would add capacity back....maybe a furlough would be advantagous.

Hey My Brother!!!!!!!!

The Rj is k!cking A$$!!! You wanna meet up for some beers sometime??

Ill be doing some Texas flying soon!

KIT and PM me!

CYA

 

[Tanker Clown]

So are your facts right, I don't think so. Who do you really know at SWA? The first question is when does RNP step 4 training start. What is the actual number of aircraft being used in May compared to Sept. Does this include the massive change in technology the scheduling and planning department has gone through, I don't think so. Your numbers are off. Think more productive my friend.

My friend was a big time union officer and now is VERY tight with managment (he's probably on the short list for a Chief Pilot job or at least check airman). He told me this whole RNP training doesn't matter since you do it in addition to your normal schedule. He told me that the plan was to cut the flying in August some time and then maybe again in the winter.

 

[TZtoSWA]

My friend was a big time union officer and now is VERY tight with managment (he's probably on the short list for a Chief Pilot job or at least check airman). He told me this whole RNP training doesn't matter since you do it in addition to your normal schedule. He told me that the plan was to cut the flying in August some time and then maybe again in the winter.

Unfortunately, I have to agree. This is why Carl K. said the furlough option was still on the table after the upcoming schedule reductions later this year. I think furlough is unlikely but it is an option that is being considered. Things could change but I just don't see it. Even with a new city or Canada announced. We have too many pilots right now period. These lower blocked lines and lack of extra flying have cost me and my brothers thousands. To hire in this current state would be irresponsible.

 

[slaquer5]

Here's a link from a guy who might know a thing or two about Southwest hiring plans. His name is Gary Kelly, and I guess he's kinda a big deal at SWA. He says no hiring this year and in fact the number of employees will shrink through attriton.

http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/compon...s.cnbc.com/stickers/partners/cnbcplayershare/

I say SWA is going to hire. Who you going to believe the guy playing Texas Hold-em( telling what his hand is) , or the commentator saying what cards will be played next.

 

[DeucesWild]

Who you going to believe...

Tanker Clown of course!! He is ALWAYS correct, and he makes me laugh.

 

[Tanker Clown]

We'll see.

 

[Captzaahlie]

If Tanker Clown said it on Flight Info it HAS to be true......

 

[texman]

Unfortunately, I have to agree. This is why Carl K. said the furlough option was still on the table after the upcoming schedule reductions later this year. I think furlough is unlikely but it is an option that is being considered. Things could change but I just don't see it. Even with a new city or Canada announced. We have too many pilots right now period. These lower blocked lines and lack of extra flying have cost me and my brothers thousands. To hire in this current state would be irresponsible.

I agree, but to furlough would be a game changer for the whole company.

 

[SELFloadingCRGO]

I agree, but to furlough would be a game changer for the whole company.

Agreed, and that doesn't even begin to address the fact of weighing the costs of furloughing people against just keeping them on property.



SLC

 

[texman]

Agreed, and that doesn't even begin to address the fact of weighing the costs of furloughing people against just keeping them on property.



SLC

yup, but also the culture of taking care of each other. Time will tell.

 

[texman]

Just got done talking to one of the chiefs, and I asked him about the fall reduction. He said that it is a normal reduction of 2% and not the the 7% that happen when the economy tanked. Also the F word is not in the mix.

 

[FlyVMI]

We all hope that hiring resumes soon. Good news is, as of 4-15-2010, you no longer have to carry your flight bag as an SWA Pilot. Jep ship sets on all our aircraft now. Good luck!

 

[texman]

We all hope that hiring resumes soon. Good news is, as of 4-15-2010, you no longer have to carry your flight bag as an SWA Pilot. Jep ship sets on all our aircraft now. Good luck!

And we are not going to codeshare with WestJet anymore!

 

[waveflyer]

That makes more sense- if wn was going to furlough they'd have done it last fall- now the timing seems good once rnp is finished to take advantage of some new cities and opportunities- won't be explosive growth- but I'd bet we'll run a few classes before the year is done.

 

[TZtoSWA]

That makes more sense- if wn was going to furlough they'd have done it last fall- now the timing seems good once rnp is finished to take advantage of some new cities and opportunities- won't be explosive growth- but I'd bet we'll run a few classes before the year is done.

They had better get the line totals back up and Extra Fly, Daily, and Monthly OT back to normal levels before one new hire sets foot on property. I don't know how anyone can say we need to run some classes with the way things are now. I sit reserve on purpose and I very rarely fly. I have never seen it like this in the 6 years I have been here.

 

[waveflyer]

really? They "better"? Or what? You gonna quit?

Where are you based?
I've flown every day on reserve and can fly as much as I want on my off days- I think we'd all like to see the productivity of trips up, but in case it's been 6 years or never since your last airline gig- we're still way more productive than most places- ever do a 5 day that paid 18 hrs?