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Name-----------------Pool Date-----Class Date
1.usausa---------------3/06/07-------1/09/08
C17guy----------------4/16/07------- 1/09/08
bonds73---------------5/8/07---------1/09/08
pinnacledude-----------5/16/07------- 1/09/08
flyosu------------------5/16/07-------1/09/08
FlyByNight1-------------5/17/07-------
jet1man----------------5/18/07-------
number11--------------5/19/07-------
scottyp----------------5/21/07-------
10.GFunk20-------------5/22/07-------
Razor_B----------------5/22/07-------
zippy32-----------------5/22/07-------
Tabex ------------------5/23/07------
AuburnAviator-----------5/23/07-------
SW Poolie---------------5/23/07------
SW Poolie---------------5/23/07------
NoCompromise-----------5/24/07-------
fixy---------------------5/24/07------
Stewy-------------------5/25/07------
20.BlueandWhite---------5/25/07-------
THEPRFCT10-------------5/27/07-------
Ballgag------------------6/01/07-------
Prop Trash---------------6/06/07------
zdriver-------------------6/08/07-------
Avgslin------------------6/10/07------
crj410 -------------------6/10/07------
Lakempnative------------6/10/07-------
O-Weone Ubabe----------6/10/07------
capt1900----------------6/10/07------
msmb--------------------6/11/07-------
30.SW Poolie-------------6/11/07-------
SW Poolie (LH) -----------6/11/07-------
SW Poolie----------------6/11/07-------
obadie-------------------6/12/07-------
palmtressairlines.---------6/12/07-------
GuyBehindTheGuy---------6/12/07-------
VoidFighter---------------6/12/07------
So cal--------------------6/14/07------
SW Poolie-----------------6/14/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/16/07-------
40.SW Poolie--------------6/16/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/16/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/16/07-------
MJG-----------------------6/17/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/17/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/17/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/17/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/17/07-------
SW Poolie-----------------6/17/07-------
Uplift---------------------6/18/07-------
50.RogerMOSA------------6/19/07-------
Nutts---------------------6/19/07-------
f340dvr-------------------6/20/07-------
Chellsha-------------------6/20/07-------
Bluto13--------------------6/21/07-------
ofacegangsta--------------6/21/07-------
2jet-----------------------6/21/07-------
Rosie----------------------6/21/07-------
Flybigsky------------------6/22/07--------
SW Poolie-----------------6/22/07-------
60.SW Poolie--------------6/24/07-------
Sundevil-------------------6/26/07-------
BOZO----------------------6/26/07-------
Beech Balls-----------------6/27/07-------
b727fe---------------------6/28/07-------
ddp------------------------6/30/07-------
SWPoolie-------------------6/30/07-------
TXDanno-------------------7/01/07-------
DesertDuck-----------------7/07/07--------
SW Poolie(SF)--------------7/08/07--------
70.Bayou Bengal-----------7/10/07------
beechbumn-----------------7/10/07--------
SW Poolie (SG)-------------7/10/07--------
50Pesos--------------------7/12/07-------
SW Poolie------------------7/14/07------
Califlyer--------------------7/15/07-------
WNC Flyer------------------7/16/07-------
PJF-------------------------7/17/07-------
SWPoolie(CF)---------------7/17/07-------
JBFlies----------------------7/17/07-------
80.SWPoolie----------------7/17/07--------
Jdru25----------------------7/17/07-------
SwPoolie(JW)---------------7/18/07--------
U2drvr----------------------7/19/07--------
cvr104----------------------7/19/07-------
skypine69-------------------7/22/07--------
SWPoolie--------------------7/23/07--------
Tristarpilot------------------7/24/07---------
Pandasfly--------------------7/25/07--------
Inigo Mentoya---------------7/29/07--------
90.SW Poolie----------------8/05/07--------
Ghettobeechjet--------------8/05/07--------
Island Driver ----------------8/05/07--------
SW Poolie-------------------8/12/07--------
Huge------------------------8/14/07--------
Texman---------------------8/14/07--------
Sabregirl--------------------8/15/07--------
DT--------------------------8/17/07--------
gradywhite------------------8/20/07--------
srv141----------------------9/16/07--------
100.Mickey D---------------9/28/07--------
SW Poolie-------------------9/28/07--------
showboats------------------9/30/07--------
ARJLVR---------------------10/6/07--------


See y'all in Dallas!
 
12:24 AM EST, December 13th.........

Age 65 looks to be a done deal. All it needs is Bush's autograph. Anyone with thoughts on how this will affect those of us in the pool?

My understanding was the there was very little hiring that was being done to cover retirements. If so, maybe this won't have that big of an effect.
 
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MJG said:
12:24 AM EST, December 13th.........

Age 65 looks to be a done deal. All it needs is Bush's autograph. Anyone with thoughts on how this will affect those of us in the pool?

My understanding was the there was very little hiring that was being done to cover retirements. If so, maybe this won't have that big of an effect.
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I don't know the answer. I'm wondering why the calls for the 2nd class in Jan haven't gone out yet.
 
MJG said:
12:24 AM EST, December 13th.........

Age 65 looks to be a done deal. All it needs is Bush's autograph. Anyone with thoughts on how this will affect those of us in the pool?

My understanding was the there was very little hiring that was being done to cover retirements. If so, maybe this won't have that big of an effect.
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It's gonna hurt guys. This is a sh1t sandwich for anyone on the bottom half of the list or waiting to start class. Consider it your first taste of SWAPA in action. And I'm usually a glass half full type.
 
My buddy told me that he thinks they'll honor the January 9th class but probably won't have a class until April or May after that one. Take it for what it's worth.

Does anyone know how much in advance you have to let SWA know that you will retire. I'm curious, the guys who said they would retire in January, are they now committed to retirement? Or can a guy just come out of the blue in say Feb and say that's it I'm out. Just wondering how they plan classes in reguards to retirements.
 
Not to be negative but adding 5-10 (net) new aircraft and little or no retirements for 5 years means only 50-100 new hires this year. I sure hope gas prices drop and the markert turns around.
 
Flyarcticcat said:
Not to be negative but adding 5-10 (net) new aircraft and little or no retirements for 5 years means only 50-100 new hires this year. I sure hope gas prices drop and the markert turns around.
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Don't you think that some (although not many) will still retire? Not every Capt has 3 ex-wives...at least I hope they don't. Some will go away due to medical. Maybe 20 total in a year out of say 200 planned retirements.
 
Tanker Clown said:
My buddy told me that he thinks they'll honor the January 9th class but probably won't have a class until April or May after that one. Take it for what it's worth.

Does anyone know how much in advance you have to let SWA know that you will retire. I'm curious, the guys who said they would retire in January, are they now committed to retirement? Or can a guy just come out of the blue in say Feb and say that's it I'm out. Just wondering how they plan classes in reguards to retirements.
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To summarize every Tanker Clown post I'll quote one of my kids favorite books...

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!"
 
WNC Flyer:

It's a free country, so feel free to stick your head in the sand...but before you do, let's review the facts.

Age 65 has just passed both houses
Oil is in the $90+ range
We are starting to see inflation (due to energy)
All signs point to a recession

I'm no fan of Chicken Little, but facts are facts. Just be happy you are at a company with some foresight. You could be at United where they are hiring while looking for to merge/be aquired. Or you could be at Delta riding the crew bus with jke406 (where he will no doubtedly be staring at your package).
 
Talked to the PD a couple days ago. They said that they discussed the age 65 bill and said it wont change much with regards to hiring this year. I guess time will tell.
 
FlyByNight1 said:
Talked to the PD a couple days ago. They said that they discussed the age 65 bill and said it wont change much with regards to hiring this year. I guess time will tell.
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I would be shocked if we hire more than 200 in 2008...with 4-5% growth, but only 1% aircraft growth and no retirements, this will not be a good year. I believe almost all of these old guys will stay and keep medical, vacation, and at least some pay...a CA could easily give away most of his schedule and just fly one trip a month (and some do just that now)...if you do the math, you will come to the same conclusion. Sorry for the bad news, but I'm looking at a 9-10 year upgrade myself because of this
 
SELFloadingCRGO said:
How does SWA regard someone changing employers while being in the "pool"? Do they frown upon it or could they care less?
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I don't think it matters that much, as long as it doesn't affect your availability. Give them a call to ask the question.

I asked them about taking a job requiring a contract. I was told that they are willing to talk with you about it and will hold your position for a while. How long, they didn't say--but at least they were willing to talk.

Lucky for me, I got hired with a company that doesn't require any commitment.
 
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Spoke to a friend (SWA Capt) who was in training yesterday. They were told the next class after Jan 9th will be 2nd quarter 2008.

They were also told that SWA's new hiring projection for all of 2008 was less than 150 pilots, due to reduced expansion and reduced retirements (Age 65.)

Sorry for the bad news. Hopefully it will be better than what my friend was told.
 

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