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SWA is in position to dominate ATL

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In conversation last night in Tampa SWA leadership was excited about competing in new markets. Adding planes is a real possibility. They also said approximately 125 engine changes last year on the B717.


I think your number may be a bit high.
 
The B717 can not keep an engine on pylon at any operator. The engine has gone through three upgrades and still eats itself.

Hawaiian is having the same issues.
 
If 125 is correct then every 717 we have has had one re-engine and 32 have had both engines changed. I think his numbers are a bit skewed.
 
Agreed. That sounds more like a "total number to date" for every 717 in the world rather than a one-operator (much less one year) number...
 
I've never understood what the big deal with ATL is, in regards to difficulty. It's one of the absolute easiest large airports to operate out of. The amount of jets launched off 2-3 runways in a ten minute period is quite a feat. Unless there's training t-storms over the field, it's overall a cakewalk. Even if you're number 10 in line you're talking 10-12 minutes max of wait time. Arrivals are equally as efficient. Even with summertime pop-ups in the area, the speed at which arrivals are processed is pretty amazing. It amazes me anyway, but I'm pretty easily amazed.


and it never hurts to know you'll have a tall cold one waiting for you at Spondivit's!
 
Agreed. That sounds more like a "total number to date" for every 717 in the world rather than a one-operator (much less one year) number...

Agreed, that number has got to be high. If they are power by the hour, why is it a big deal aside from operational problems a diversion creates?
 
ATC in ATL is the best in the country. But once you get on the ground it all goes to $#$@@.


I might have to disagree. MEM is pretty amazing...have you ever tried to land during the PM arrivals during a thunderstorm? They put ATL to shame!
 
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Agreed, that number has got to be high. If they are power by the hour, why is it a big deal aside from operational problems a diversion creates?

A) Cause there aren't many spares left.
B) The contract will cost WAY more next go around.

Gup
 
why is it a big deal aside from operational problems a diversion creates?

That one line right there might be why they wouldn't want to keep them. Southwest would not really tolerate any hanger queens. It's all about keeping it moving..
 
Agreed, that number has got to be high. If they are power by the hour, why is it a big deal aside from operational problems a diversion creates?

"Power by the hour", just like any sort of lease or insurance product, is a completely numbers-driven proposition. GE or whoever has the leases on those engines will have their analysts/economists pore over the reports, and come up with a new hourly amount reflecting the costs.

Most, but certainly not all, of the BR715 engine problems I have heard about do not occur during a critical segment, but often are a rollback to flight idle in cruise.
 
Agreed, do we know how long the term of the PBH contracts are? Makes you wonder if there are other options moving forward, perhaps the MD-90 engines? Hopefully, RR gets their stuff together with the 715.
 

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