SWA culture!

[Lear70]

Happy 4th of July, ladies and gents. Hope you're all somewhere enjoying with family or at least with a good crew and can have a good evening and reflect on the privilege of living in a country where we can even *HAVE* this kind of problem or debate. Life is good. :beer:

Fly safe, ya'll.

 

[Flycatcher99]

Great post. Look forward to working with you sooner rather than later.

I concur. Good post.

 

[rajflyboy]

FWIW, I think these are the type of posts that give AT pilots and outsiders the impression that SWA pilots view others as "inferior". In 18 years I've personally flown with probably 20 guys that got hired at SWA, in addition to about 20 guys who applied and didn't get hired. I can assure you that while most who left for SWA were great pilots/people there were a couple real head scratchers. By the same token a few of the best pilots/people I've ever flown with were turned down (some multiple times).

The AT group is proud of the airline it has built in spite of abusive management. In only 17 years it has grown to become a major airline with a better contract than some legacies. We are used to having to fight for survival, and when you imply that we are somehow not as good as you because xyz it only calls upon that pride that we've used to battle with Delta, SWA, and our management. You see, we've had to do more with less and done it well enough that you bought us rather than compete against us. The more you tell your little brother he's not as good, the harder he works to prove he is... This is why the more we are told what a crappy stepping stone airline we work for, we fight back harder. It's that pride that will help us fit in well with SWA. I will admit that sometimes it feels disrespectful.

Make no mistake, we realize it is a BLESSING to have an opportunity to be a part of SWA. We are not greedy or unappreciative and I can assure you we want the culture to thrive moving forward. In my opinion SWA is the best job in the biz, but please stop trying to convince us that our airline sucked and we are barely worthy of sharing the air with you. I'd bet a $100, 5 years from now you couldn't tell whether a SWA pilot was hired or acquired by watching he/she perform their duties.

More bees with honey fellas...

Happy 4th!!!

to be honest

you will never see this opportunity play out like you think it will

 

[MILF Hunter]

Thanks for the info, helps to understand why relative is so upsetting to most of your pilots, but I still don't understand the angst against DoH. It seems to level the field considerably for your pilots while simultaneously making us sacrifice a significant amount of relative seniority in exchange for the SWAPA contract and working relationship.

Lear, please carefully read the following quotes taken from our NC Update from two days ago.

Through all our negotiations, we've stressed that the following principles are to be followed to create a successful integrated seniority list. These principles are:
Any seniority list must preserve and enhance SWA pilots' career value
SWAPA pilots must be collectively and individually "unharmed"
The benefits of this acquisition should be shared among both pilot groups

Our talks are productive and ongoing. The AirTran ALPA Merger Committee understands -- and our Company supports -- our guiding principles.

According to several tranny friends, this is basically what your MC has been saying in your crew lounge.

Simply put, there are a number of scenarios that 'harm' SWA pilots, DOH likely being one of them. Our NC isn't out to oppress ATN pilots, but their guiding principles are to absolutely protect the career value of SWA pilots.

Like it or not, the options that follow those guiding principles (the one's your own committee recognizes) are probably few.

 

[rajflyboy]

Air tranny is gonna get dumped like a virgin on prom night

 

[no1pilot2000]

Visiting this web site from time to time is an interesting venture. Sometimes. it's better than reading the supermarket tabloids.

 

[rajflyboy]

Visiting this web site from time to time is an interesting venture. Sometimes. it's better than reading the supermarket tabloids.

Someone has to tell the truth

 

[Ty Webb]

Air tranny is gonna get dumped like a virgin on prom night

This is coming from the same savant who was posting last year that SWA would never buy AirTran, and ripping on SWA for requiring the type rating, even though your own employer, EJA, had a similar requirement until your most recent contract.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showpost.php?p=1968786&postcount=71

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=2040116#post2040116

Nice.

 

[Dan Roman]

Funny how you are suddenly so disrespectful to your former coworkers, RAJ. Shows a real lack of integrity and character.

You know that guy and he is an ex AirTran bashing his former coworkers like that???? "Lack of integrity and character" is putting it mildly.

 

[Ty Webb]

You know that guy and he is an ex AirTran bashing his former coworkers like that???? "Lack of integrity and character" is putting it mildly.

I may have him confused with another RAJ. I sure hope so.