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For people to argue that getting the job at both AAI and SW was the same, or that the contract payrates aren't 'that far apart', or that the career expectations are really the same because they both fly a 737, is completely ludicrous.

We are all going to find out what Gary's vision for this SLI is pretty soon and I think it might be eye opening to say the least.
 
If you exclude all the kernals, what do you suppose the avg age of a swa new hire has been.....
 
Guys after reading all of this bull********************, I want to remind e everybody, that this is not a merger but an acquisition. The sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can get this integration done. Everyone does realize that what Gary wants Gary will get. PCL is probably more of a positive for the SWA integration than we all realize. Go ahead and try the ALPA mentality on us. This should get interesting. I to am hopeful it all works out, but hey, Trannies need to acknowledge first the good thing they are getting from SWA BUYING them. No merger here boys and girls. Ok Ty, Fire away.
 
This thread has sure taken a nasty turn today! We must be getting close 'cause everybody is getting pissed off!

Gup
 
How long was your most junior pilot furloughed? What was the average furlough length?

I certainly don't want to play politics with your pain, but did you know that over the same time period SWA used all means to avoid furloughs and working w/ SWAPA, we all made significantly less $$ with lower line credits during that same time? SWA had the belief and faith in their pilots & culture and the means to not furlough. With SWA's #'s during the meltdown, every other airline would have furloughed, and did with their own #'s. That ought to tell you about mgmt and Swapa.
For those who don't think the culture of swa is alive and well within Swapa- you do not know what you're saying. We have our debates- but we absolutely look out for each other.

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From 9/3/2008 till that December is 3 month off property. Return calls where sent and classes were pretty full and most returned unless you were military or on a contract employment etc. You can surmise the math from there. You seem like a smart guy. :)

When I was furloughed I wasn't really worried what SWA was doing. I was more concerned about my life and my family. I mean there were friends and family hit by that event and we all, not just myself, stepped up to the plate and made it right. Capt/FO gave $ to help them more than you can imagine to these families during that time.

I look forward to calling myself swapa and count the days but I am also proud to call myself Airtran and safely fly each and every pax to and from and back again.
 
Ty "No SWAPA for YOU!" and PLC "you're gonna have to learn how to fly, cus you ain't going to be working within SWAPA, ever."
 
For the airtran guys it is too bad Herb is not in charge....had the opportunity twice to spend a little quality time with the man...solidly in the camp of the underdog and an incredible sense of fair play.....Gary seems to be just a really smart businessman who is a little awkward with people.....with friends on both sides of all seniority, I am looking forward to the end of all this.....If done properly it will help all of us and if not it will simply arm the cannons of our demise....good luck y'all
 
Face it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fly a 737.
Bingo! We have a winner! ANYONE can fly a 737 -- that's not the discriminator. Perhaps having certain personality traits is what makes SWA pilots and our culture different from others?

KJ
 
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So what part of "No bump, no flush" eludes you? Look, man, I love you, but you know as well as I do that putting a pre-1993 AAI Capt. next to a 30 year SWA Capt. is absurd on the face of it.

Here's the solution:

1. No bump no flush
2. Put the pre-October 1993 SWA Capts. on the list.
3. Ratio the rest.

Simple. End of story.

As we've discussed privately, I still disagree. Sorry. :) I'll just leave it at that, since our MC doesn't want us getting into details on SLI stuff publicly.
 
Guys after reading all of this bull********************, I want to remind e everybody, that this is not a merger but an acquisition. The sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can get this integration done. Everyone does realize that what Gary wants Gary will get. PCL is probably more of a positive for the SWA integration than we all realize. Go ahead and try the ALPA mentality on us. This should get interesting. I to am hopeful it all works out, but hey, Trannies need to acknowledge first the good thing they are getting from SWA BUYING them. No merger here boys and girls. Ok Ty, Fire away.

This is a good point to make right now...I think there are a lot of folks at AAI making gross misjudgments about the "LUV" airline. It seems like some think SWA will accept them with open arms no matter what. Let me tell you that NOTHING could be further from the truth. This airline is built on the "luv culture" and all, but they would absolutely gut a competitor like a fish if given the chance and would do so to any labor group that tried to challenge said culture in an ALPA-like fashion.

Gary Kellly is so risk averse it isn't funny...no way is he going to let this (or any other labor group) go to arbitration and have a chance of a USAir/AmWest fiasco. This airline is many things, but there are two things that do NOT play here....high costs and labor strife. I think the F9 pilots learned that the hard way and not a whole hell of a lot has changed since then. The best thing SWA got from this deal was the elimination of its biggest competitor. After that it is back to business as usual as soon as possible. I would not mess with Gary...he has structured this deal so that he has control over the final product...there is a reason for that.
 

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