SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

[Empennage]

Fair 'nuff, took it the wrong way I guess. Sure sounded like you were trying to intimidate. My bad.

Thank you sir.

The point remains that while not only does arbitration have unknowns, but also the process following such.

I suppose we can all beg to differ, but the bottom line is something negotiated has knowns for all. It also avoids the unknowns following. Additionally a negotiated settlement also gives the combined group a plan going forward, as well as a unified feeling of resolve and teamwork. So I think we can all agree it would not hurt culture. Would arbitration? Who knows?

 

[SWA/FO]

Umm yeah, 1 lead and 3 total. That why I included the (s). What is it with you? Does making other people sound like they don't know what they're talking about somehow make you feel better about yourself?

I don't need to make fun of people to make myself feel better. I feel fine. What is it with you? Are you that sensitive?

Hopefully this will be wrapped up in 7 months or so and we can move on.

3 months.

 

[Ty Webb]

Cue Baghdad Bob in 3 . . 2 . . . .1 . . :laugh:

 

[Bob Dylan]

Hopefully the Trannies will pull their heads out of their butts long enough to see the forest for the trees.

I'd give anything to get a staple onto Southwest and I'm sure that if the Trannies were to vote a straight staple would pass by a wide margin. The senior AT captains are screwing everybody at both companies!

 

[-9Capt]

I don't need to make fun of people to make myself feel better. I feel fine.

I never said you made fun.

When you thought I misspoke you made a wise ass comment correcting me. That's a sign of low self esteem, "but you already knew that"?

Anyway, if an acceptable deal is reached on our own, great. I think it's highly unlikely based on some comments I've read here. I also think that a group of people who don't have a dog in this fight will probably bring back a fair SLI.

 

[Bob Dylan]

The fairest integration (aside from preferential interviews) would be to staple AirTran pilots to the Southwest seniority list. I predict that's what will ultimately happen.

 

[SWA/FO]

When you thought I misspoke you made a wise ass comment correcting me. That's a sign of low self esteem, "but you already knew that"?

I made a wise ass comment to correct your tranny ass. Sure, I have low self esteem.... I didn't know that.

Anyway, if an acceptable deal is reached on our own, great. I think it's highly unlikely based on some comments I've read here. I also think that a group of people who don't have a dog in this fight will probably bring back a fair SLI.

So, you wearing your ONE LUV landyard? Whats your plan B, cus Gary's got a Plan B, C, D, E, F....

 

[-9Capt]

I made a wise ass comment to correct your tranny ass.

You still don't get it, Unbelieveable. My post required no correction and now I'm a tranny ass. Try calling me that when you're jerking my gear, junior.

You're a real smart ass from behind the safety of your keyboard.

So, you wearing your ONE LUV landyard? Whats your plan B, cus Gary's got a Plan B, C, D, E, F....

I don't wear lanyards.

And there they go again...more veiled threats. Newsflash junior, they don't work.

 

[SWA/FO]

You're a real smart ass from behind the safety of your keyboard.

I'm a smart ass in person too.

It appears you are behind a keyboard too!

 

[-9Capt]

I'm a smart ass in person too.

It appears you are behind a keyboard too!

I'm using an iPhone, smart ass.

 

[Empennage]

I'm using an iPhone, smart ass.

An iPhone 3! Sweet!!!

 

[Empennage]

Cue Baghdad Bob in 3 . . 2 . . . .1 . . :laugh:

Man that's funny!

 

[Empennage]

I made a wise ass comment to correct your tranny ass. Sure, I have low self esteem.... I didn't know that.



So, you wearing your ONE LUV landyard? Whats your plan B, cus Gary's got a Plan B, C, D, E, F....

You forgot g h I h k

 

[General Lee]

Thank you sir.

The point remains that while not only does arbitration have unknowns, but also the process following such.

I suppose we can all beg to differ, but the bottom line is something negotiated has knowns for all. It also avoids the unknowns following. Additionally a negotiated settlement also gives the combined group a plan going forward, as well as a unified feeling of resolve and teamwork. So I think we can all agree it would not hurt culture. Would arbitration? Who knows?

Negotiations always have bias. After the result, you always have to wonder if someone was leaned on to get a certain result. Maybe, or maybe not. They could try to sell you anything after the SLI has been negotiated by them. Not so in arbitration. Those guys have NO piece of the action. They are called neutrals for a reason. Your best bet for a fair deal is from someone who doesn't benefit either way, except other than a nice fee. THAT IS FAIR. At the conclusion, they will even write out a report to tell you why they ruled that way. REASONS, not confusion.

Southwest pilots don't want to roll the dice, they want you to take the deal, and then, and only then they will ask GK to give you their current pay. Why wouldn't your pay on the 737 be the same NOW? I think a lot of people, not only Airtran pilots, want to know why.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I made a wise ass comment to correct your tranny ass. Sure, I have low self esteem.... I didn't know that.



So, you wearing your ONE LUV landyard? Whats your plan B, cus Gary's got a Plan B, C, D, E, F....

Here we go again. Look at what this tool just wrote. This is why you need Arbitration. Threats like this could be commonplace. Part of this whole deal needs to be fair. If you aren't getting paid the same (like other airlines did during their merger almost right away), then how about your seniority? GK wants this merger to happen, he has said it many times in the media. Could he change his mind? Maybe. I bet the hedge funds will tell him he is wrong if he does.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[On Your Six]

Here we go again. Look at what this tool just wrote. This is why you need Arbitration. Threats like this could be commonplace. Part of this whole deal needs to be fair. If you aren't getting paid the same (like other airlines did during their merger almost right away), then how about your seniority? GK wants this merger to happen, he has said it many times in the media. Could he change his mind? Maybe. I bet the hedge funds will tell him he is wrong if he does.



Bye Bye---General Lee

Unbelievable. That guy really is a tool, you're right. But, I like your new signature.


OYS

 

[Empennage]

Here we go again. Look at what this tool just wrote. This is why you need Arbitration. Threats like this could be commonplace. Part of this whole deal needs to be fair. If you aren't getting paid the same (like other airlines did during their merger almost right away), then how about your seniority? GK wants this merger to happen, he has said it many times in the media. Could he change his mind? Maybe. I bet the hedge funds will tell him he is wrong if he does.



Bye Bye---General Lee

Wow. You call him a tool? Now thats not only ironic , but also funny.

Your post is false, misleading and illustrates your complete lack of understanding of this specific process. It also demonstrates how you fail to realize how each arbitration is specific and unique.

Good try however. Like oys, if you post enough it must come true. Let me guess, your next post will say just about the same thing.

 

[On Your Six]

Wow. You call him a tool? Now thats not only ironic , but also funny.

Your post is false, misleading and illustrates your complete lack of understanding of this specific process. It also demonstrates how you fail to realize how each arbitration is specific and unique.

Good try however. Like oys, if you post enough it must come true. Let me guess, your next post will say just about the same thing.

Where does Lee have it wrong? Every merger is different? So far, every recent merger has turned to arbitration for their SLI. And so far most involved some sort of relative integration. I can see why you might be nervous. Please, tell me why your merger is different. Is it the process agreement that each party signed that included arbitration if needed?


OYS

 

[SWA/FO]

Try calling me that when you're jerking my gear, junior.

Sure, you'll say "Landing Gear Up" and I'll say "Positive Rate Tranny Ass Landing Gear up" (then I will move the Landing gear lever with my right hand).

Remember, You'll be pulling gear for me too (everyother leg) But don't worry, I'll let you do the log book and all the walkarounds you can handle.

 

[madjack]

OYS/GL/-9CPT/Et.al.,

Both sides have a lot to gamble on here...SWA pilots have no contractual gains as a result of this acquisition and will probably have AAI pilots on the list ahead of them...AAI pilots gain a better contract/company/career potential/LIFE...for that they must give up seniority, the only question is how much...so what is so unfair about that?...or is it fair for the AAI pilots to keep same rel seniority, be operated separately as Guadalupe Holdings with the pay and benefits gain of the SWA contract...the latter may be the best outcome...