SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

[ATLplt]

You: I want your seniority
Me: Ahh, No.
You: Oh yeah, well maybe you'll be out of a job then.
Me: Blow me.

:laugh:

 

[madjack]

GL: The only thing I have been hearing from the AAI guys is we want to keep our seats (which means relative seniority) and the raise...so how is that fair for the SWA pilots?...as much as you dislike SWA, M/B protects the SWA pilots also...it is a little irksome to hear Ty talk about all the money he is going to be making as a SWA CP, when SWA junior CPs and LCs may lose their seats...

 

[Ty Webb]

You: I want your seniority
Me: Ahh, No.
You: Oh yeah, well maybe you'll be out of a job then.
Me: Blow me.

And that, ladies and germs, pretty much much sums it up. . . . all 79 pages. :laugh:

 

[madjack]

This is the divorce before the marriage...

 

[ASADFW7]

The opener was today.

 

[texman]

The opener was today.

Sweet. I wonder how all of us 80,000 and 90,000's numbers will pan out?

 

[N1kawotg]

Please explain General how a pilot from one company "earned" his seat at another conpany by not passing an interview, not meeting qualifications, and not meeting a board. Your logic would induce that any pilot that gets hired at any company should be put in the left seat. We've all earned it. So let SLI so it's job. It is not a pilot's seat but the company's for who he flies. Seniority does rule so why not fight for the Swa guys to keep theirs. One conclusion, pot stirring.

 

[General Lee]

Please explain General how a pilot from one company "earned" his seat at another conpany by not passing an interview, not meeting qualifications, and not meeting a board. Your logic would induce that any pilot that gets hired at any company should be put in the left seat. We've all earned it. So let SLI so it's job. It is not a pilot's seat but the company's for who he flies. Seniority does rule so why not fight for the Swa guys to keep theirs. One conclusion, pot stirring.

Your problem is that you think EVERYONE wants to be at Southwest. Great, your pay is FANTASTIC. Hopefully others will attain that same payscale soon. But, not every Airtran guy wanted to go to Southwest, or buy a type, etc. Maybe those Airtran guys were ASA guys, and wanted to fly from home in ATL. You never know.

GK wanted to merge with Airtran for a reason. He got the WHOLE company, seats and all. He got the planes, and the people, and the slots at LGA, and DCA, and gates in ATL, etc. Those Airtran people earned it, and maybe some of them interviewed at SWA, but a lot probably did not.

And I love hearing about past Airtran pilots that decided to leave (on their own) and go to SWA. That is called bad timing, especially if they were Captains at Airtran. People make choices in life, and that might have been a bad one, just like those SWA Captains that supposedly went to United before 9-11. That turned out to be a bad choice. Good at the time, bad now.

So, not everyone wants or needs to go to SWA, but those Airtran guys now don't have a choice, even if it is a better choice now pay and benefits wise. GK wanted Airtran, and he has them now.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[27 driver]

Please explain General how a pilot from one company "earned" his seat at another conpany by not passing an interview, not meeting qualifications, and not meeting a board. Your logic would induce that any pilot that gets hired at any company should be put in the left seat. We've all earned it. So let SLI so it's job. It is not a pilot's seat but the company's for who he flies. Seniority does rule so why not fight for the Swa guys to keep theirs. One conclusion, pot stirring.

Even if it goes relative how does any SWA pilot lose seniority? They don't lose money, they don't lose bidding power, vacation slots, bases, or anything else. You say its not a pilot's seat but the company's who he flies for. Now we all fly for the same company just have different bargaining agents. No SWA guy will lose anything. Even if it goes relative they have not lost any seniority. 99.9% of AAI guys meet and exceed SWA's mins . GK and the shareholders decided they wanted this deal and they made it happen. You can say AAI guys are lesser pilots and lesser people all day long but that doesn't make it so. You have earned your job and we have earned ours. Get over yourself. You are no better than the other thousands of pilots out there.

 

[N1kawotg]

They lose money by delays in upgrade, week ends off etc. As you say, they didn't choose Swa but how did they earn it. So I guess a new hire hired after will go in front of everyone if they were a capt previously, they earned it right?